Comments Thread For: Loeffler: Andre Ward-Gennady Golovkin Will Take Time

[Pigeons]

These guys are embarrassing the sport. On one hand we have Golovkin mandatory to a huge star in Canelo and he drops his belt rather than fight him. On the other hand we have a guy who wants to be a star mandatory to Golovkin and he won't even attempt to enforce his mandatory position. The boxing gods will even things out eventually, watch Jacobs lose to some clown and Canelo draining himself will eventually catch up to him.

Sad thing is there are so called boxing fans that defend this kind of crap which is the very same crap that destroys the sport.

C*nts like this are always entertaining. They disguise their bias in this "good for the sport" facade. They ignore Golovkin's claims about "anybody from 154 to 175", yet they demand a guy that fights at 155 to fight Golovkin at 160. They laugh at the mere possibility that a guy that fights at 155 can make 154. Even when he signs to fight at 154, they still fill their head with delusions.

Then you have a real warrior (Ward), that is denied a great fight, a fight that would be "good for the sport", so he moves up to 175 and signs to fight the best of the best. Yet, these "good for the sport" cuckolds ignore this so called "bravery" and are left to make the most of the cute accent and bum slaying ability of the man they want to be anally penetrated by (Ducklovkin).

Ward cleaned out 168 and has signed to fight a literal killer at 175. What has Golovkin done? Win 2 interim belts that were later elevated to full belts and stop David Lemieux? How can anyone argue "good for the sport" after comparing these resumes?

You can't. Unless you are a biased c*nt.

/thread

[ИATAS]

It's the principle of fcuking business...

Let me say it again businessbusinessbusinessbusinessbusinessbusinessbu sinessbusinessbusinessbusinessbusinessbusinessbusi nessbusinessbusinessbusinessbusinessbusinessbusine ss

What don't you understand about the analogy I'm making with all these examples is businessbusinessbusinessbusinessbusinessbusiness.

Have I mentioned business?

Why can't you get it through your thick ass skull that all these fighters from some time or another have made business decisions for their careers?

GGG has made several.

Bob Arum tried to tell Mayweather how much he was worth and didn't know schit.

FMJ tried to tell Pac how much he was worth and didn't know schit.

You are not a boxing insider. You don't have the right to tell a boxer how much he feels he should get paid. And if you do, please tell me what experience you have in said field and who's boxing contract you negotiated on behalf of? You haven't and you have zero negotiating boxing experience.

You have no right to tell us why Pac was ok to make a smart business decision and GGG made a right business decision, but no one else can.

The fact that after all these hours of telling you about "business", you're literally struggling to grasp that concept.

Do you really believe I'm comparing Jacobs star power to that of Pacquiao? Are you seriously that ******ed???

I'm giving countless examples of business practices you've co-signed on since being a member of this forum, but now all of a sudden you have a problem with business.

Oh I understand perfectly well that you're using "smart business decisions" as an excuse as to why Jacobs isn't fighting Golovkin, I got that down trust me. Since you're the business expert here I'm sure you're absolutely right and Jacobs will easily squeeze out a few extra million dollars from HBO after fighting Sergio Mora and earn way more money than much bigger names like Danny Garcia and the likes, because networks absolutely love handing out $4-$5 million dollar purses for guys without big names, happens all the time I'm sure. So this smart business decision of waiting 1.5 years building his name off Sergio Mora and the likes is definitely better than directly fighting Golovkin for three middleweight belts in the biggest fight of his career, absolutely I can totally see that now thank you so much for explaining it so elegantly, really beautiful logic to read.

Yeah man, you really got me. You're the business expert here and none of us have any clue about anything. Thanks again for clearing this up, it makes perfect sense now. I'm going to go on Twitter now and correct the hundreds of people who were clowning on Jacobs and let them know he's not fighting Golovkin because "business", I'm sure all the fans will totally appreciate that.

[Ray*]

C*nts like this are always entertaining. They disguise their bias in this "good for the sport" facade. They ignore Golovkin's claims about "anybody from 154 to 175", yet they demand a guy that fights at 155 to fight Golovkin at 160. They laugh at the mere possibility that a guy that fights at 155 can make 154. Even when he signs to fight at 154, they still fill their head with delusions.

Then you have a real warrior (Ward), that is denied a great fight, a fight that would be "good for the sport", so he moves up to 175 and signs to fight the best of the best. Yet, these "good for the sport" cuckolds ignore this so called "bravery" and are left to make the most of the cute accent and bum slaying ability of the man they want to be anally penetrated by (Ducklovkin).

Ward cleaned out 168 and has signed to fight a literal killer at 175. What has Golovkin done? Win 2 interim belts that were later elevated to full belts and stop David Lemieux? How can anyone argue "good for the sport" after comparing these resumes?

You can't. Unless you are a biased c*nt.

/thread

The problem with some boxing fans are some of the points you touched on. The GGG is a mandatory for Canelo excuse is just that AN excuse. Not saying Canelo is in the right or anything but as you can see from posters and loeffler on here, they shift the goal post when it suits them.

[Chollo Vista]

Oh I understand perfectly well that you're using "smart business decisions" as an excuse as to why Jacobs isn't fighting Golovkin, I got that down trust me. Since you're the business expert here I'm sure you're absolutely right and Jacobs will easily squeeze out a few extra million dollars from HBO after fighting Sergio Mora and earn way more money than much bigger names like Danny Garcia and the likes, because networks absolutely love handing out $4-$5 million dollar purses for guys without big names, happens all the time I'm sure. So this smart business decision of waiting 1.5 years building his name off Sergio Mora and the likes is definitely better than directly fighting Golovkin for three middleweight belts in the biggest fight of his career, absolutely I can totally see that now thank you so much for explaining it so elegantly, really beautiful logic to read.

Yeah man, you really got me. You're the business expert here and none of us have any clue about anything. Thanks again for clearing this up, it makes perfect sense now. I'm going to go on Twitter now and correct the hundreds of people who were clowning on Jacobs and let them know he's not fighting Golovkin because "business", I'm sure all the fans will totally appreciate that.

Back to using sarcasm I see. Because when all else fails, we know what you will resort too.

Call it what you like. Jacobs doesn't want the Mora fight either, but again, you only quote Jacobs when it's beneficial to you and your argument.

[Motorcity Cobra]

[j0zef]

RIP Natas' braincells.
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[SkillspayBills]

NATAS is my boy but uhhh....he's kind of getting cooked with this one. It happens to the best of us when we defend our favorite fighters.

[Motorcity Cobra]

If you're going to say my name **** then quote me correctly. Did I say Ward ducked Golovkin? Absolutely not.
I said exactly what happened - there was an offer from K2/HBO for a Ward vs Golovkin fight at 168. At that time Ward wasn't interested in it. Fast forward in time when Ward offered to fight Golovkin as Golovkin was finalizing a unification fight with Lemeuix with the expectations of a Canelo clash soon after being that Golovkin was mandatory to the WBC, Golovkin/K2 weren't interested being that their circumstances were totally different (as I just explained how).

And what was the context of me saying this? Because you were somehow trying to compare Jacobs turning down Golovkin as a "business decision" as the same thing as Ward and Golovkin, two guys who aren't and never have been in the same weight class. Jacobs on the other hand is not only in the same division as Golovkin but is in a position to enforce his mandatory status, and yet he doesn't because he doesn't want the fight.

As a boxing fan, I'd love to see Golovkin vs Jacobs, since they are two top middleweights. Unfortunately Jacobs didn't want the fight so that left you making all types of excuses the past 48 hours playing boxing manager and trying to use Andre Ward to rescue Jacobs from the backlash he's received over his own comments.

Recent quotes supposedly from GGG are false, he never said Ward turned down a fight 3 times and never said Ward changed weight in Amateurs

— Tom Loeffler (@TomLoeffler1) July 4, 2015

[HeroBando]

Recent quotes supposedly from GGG are false, he never said Ward turned down a fight 3 times and never said Ward changed weight in Amateurs

— Tom Loeffler (@TomLoeffler1) July 4, 2015

That's not it, Loeffler stood by Gggs Russian interview that Hbo approached them once and he was ready for it, Ward wasn't. Then Hbo told them it would take buildup, probably to meet everyone's purse demands. Buildup wise one guy did his part and more. Other guy may gain some momentum this winter, some 4 years later

[kafkod]

Chavez Jr @ 168 makes "bizness" sense. It's not about the best vs the best.

Ward @ 168 - It's not about the best vs the best, it's about business sense.

Lara @ 160 - It's not about the best vs the best, it's about business sense.

Canelo @ 155 - It's not about business sense, it's about the best vs the best @ 160 even though we said we'll fight him at 154.

Jacobs vs GGG - Jacobs isn't allowed to make "bizness" sense or ask for a purse he's comfortable with. He's duckin, doe

Ward @ 168. Ward can't make 168 any more. The "offer" he sent to Loeffler was a PR stunt and nothing more.

Lara @ 160. A fight nobody wants, especially Lara!

Canelo @ 155. No reason at all why a mandatory challenger should accept a catchweight, but none was ever offered. Canelo didn't want to fight GGG at any weight.

Jacobs vs GGG. Now we know that even Danny himself doesn't think he can beat Golovkin, the kind of money he's asking for is even less realistic.

And btw, it's funny how you have shifted your stance from "GGG is ducking Jacobs" to excuses for Jacobs ducking GGG!