If srgey kovalev was American would he make the top ten p4p rankings?

[New England]

Why are you disrespecting Europe?

Those "bums" who stay over in Europe came to America before, beat one of your best fighters (De la Hoya) and got robbed just because De la Hoya had a "super fight" lined up with Hopkins. Fact of the matter is De La Houa got whooped by that "euro bum" Sturm..... And now in order for Sturm to be relevant, according to you... He should of stayed fighting in the country that screwed his career over in? Get real. He doesnr owe "america" anything, especially Under those circumstances. You're a good poster sometimes but you sound ignorant as hell right now.

P4P lists don't mean **** anyway... It's all opinion and fantasy by biased and racists fans to choose their favorite countrymen. Since in a previous post you said Eiropeans are bums or they're not as good at boxing as their American counter parts (lol) let me educate you real quick, son. What's fact is the absolute TOP P4P, ( I don't mean it in some bull**** science fiction way.... " oh if Floyd was 6'5 he would beat Wlad!" No Wlad is the baddest and biggest man in boxing,because of that he would beat anyone In the sport) is European. Vitali and Wlad Klitschko can and would beat any single fighter actively in the sport of boxing right now.......... But Europeans are inferior, okay.

This isn't the first time I've saw you spewing this "America is the Mecca of boxing. Euros suck" ****. What else is fact is that ex-soviet countries were not allowed to compete professionally til the 90s, and what happens when they do? Check out how many titlists or champions there have been since then from that part of the world. Hell even right now, I'm not gonna check it but I bet you about what, like 35% of all champhons in the sport right now are from Europe?

I don't know why you have this ****ty, pre world war 2 nationalistic logic.... And get mad when soemone doesn't bend over for America and just calls it how it is. OPs thread and content is not THAT bad of a question. IF Kovalev was American he would get a **** ton of hype. No he wouldn't be "p4p" yet, just like broner shouldn't be... Neither mans résumé is quite the P4P status, YET... Anyone calling either P4P is saying it strictly on potential. But you're delusional if you don't think some or these euros wouldn't be Ameican heroes if they were from America. Come on it happens in almost EVERY sporting event; especially boxing, every time a European (Easteen to be specific) fights or plays in America, you ALWAYS hear USA USA chants... You never hear that against Mexicans, South Americans, etc.... So to tell me guys like Wlad Klitschoo wouldn't be beloved if they were American is bull**** IMO. You're making Europeans out to be bad, but there is a large number of KKK and black panther Americans who won't even look at a fighter unless he's from whatever part of America they're from.

Deal with it.

outside of my original post, which was aimed at addressing the topic in the TS, i actually did it exclusively because i saw my homie dirk back in action, and wanted to make sure he still had something left in the tank.


that, and the US produces better boxers [ and athletes ] than the UK.

[King_]

outside of my original post, which was aimed at addressing the topic in the TS, i actually did it exclusively because i saw my homie dirk back in action, and wanted to make sure he still had something left in the tank.


that, and the US produces better boxers [ and athletes ] than the UK.

Okay well, my apologies I just skimmed though and say you say Europeans suck a couple of times, or something along those lines.

There's good boxers from everywhere, doesn't matter where they're from but I think guys from certain parts of Europe get Hated on for some reason in the USA, IMO.

(Not talking about UK)

(Yes was kinda mad)

[Sweet Pea 50]

As others have said, P4P lists are subjective. But at this point, no, he wouldn't be on mine (Which surely people care about.) Sure he is a highlight reel, but he doesn't have the resume at this time to be considered a top 10 P4P guy in my eyes.

The butthurt is strong in this thread...

[Tom Cruise]

outside of my original post, which was aimed at addressing the topic in the TS, i actually did it exclusively because i saw my homie dirk back in action, and wanted to make sure he still had something left in the tank.


that, and the US produces better boxers [ and athletes ] than the UK.

Nice to see your athletes dominating at wimbledon this year

On thread, if he was American and he was in so.e peoples top 10 it would be wrong,so it is right that he isn't there at the moment. He's in a good division though with another good division just above him so who knows where he could end up

[New England]

Nice to see your athletes dominating at wimbledon this year

On thread, if he was American and he was in so.e peoples top 10 it would be wrong,so it is right that he isn't there at the moment. He's in a good division though with another good division just above him so who knows where he could end up

women's tennis is all i care about.

all of those russian broads can get it.


the only male tennis player who i think is a bonafide insane athlete right now is monfils.

the two best athletes in tennis are American, serena and venus. they are leaps and bounds beyond their competition.

[New England]

Okay well, my apologies I just skimmed though and say you say Europeans suck a couple of times, or something along those lines.

There's good boxers from everywhere, doesn't matter where they're from but I think guys from certain parts of Europe get Hated on for some reason in the USA, IMO.

(Not talking about UK)

(Yes was kinda mad)

you're aware that euros (soviet block) have been in amateur boxing since the black and white days [film,] and they still got their butts kicked by american HW, right?


and i can assure you that the rest of the world hates america more htan it hates specific euro nations. if you're talking the whole continent perhaps it evens out. when you're on top there is envy.

[Tom Cruise]

women's tennis is all i care about.

all of those russian broads can get it.


the only male tennis player who i think is a bonafide insane athlete right now is monfils.

the two best athletes in tennis are American, serena and venus. they are leaps and bounds beyond their competition.

Lol Monfils gets clowned by Murray, Djokovic and Nadal in tennis and athleticism

Also i forgot about Serena. Now that bloke can play!

[Sweet Pea 50]

Lol Monfils gets clowned by Murray, Djokovic and Nadal in tennis and athleticism

Also i forgot about Serena. Now that bloke can play!

[PACnPBFsuck]

Why would you embarrass yourself by asking this question?

This ...............

[New England]

Lol Monfils gets clowned by Murray, Djokovic and Nadal in tennis and athleticism

Also i forgot about Serena. Now that bloke can play!

in athleticism
lol......

nadal's knees are lettign him down, but he was an OK athlete i guess. monfils still makes him look like he's stuck in the mud. losing a tennis match isn't an indicator of inferior athleticism. a healthy [maybe even an unhealthy] nadal, chokab#Tch, and even limey murray would beat him in tennis.

the best athletes in that sport are the williams sisters. you have to compare them to the other women, and they are in another stratosphere. of course they're american.