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  • I Love Jesus!
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    #51
    Originally posted by INGLEWOOD
    I feel you with the corner stepping in to preserve the young fighter mentally. Thats a good point. Canelo is much better defensively then you give him credit for and hes very technical and smart. Canelo much faster then Mosley not even a fair comparison. He will catch Floyd question is how will Floyd hold up when he gets touched? Zab is still seeing stars from that Garcia ass-whoopin he got cuz Canelo is not a come forward aggressive fighter like he called him. That sounds like Peterson or Rios. Canelo stands in the center of the ring fighting of his back-foot waiting to counter and berly lets his hands go. How is that aggression? Zab is a tool.
    Are u guys f ing ******ed? Corner stoppage? Mayweather has no power against the blown up light weights hes been fighting now hes going to get a corner stoppage all the sudden?

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    • budfr
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      #52
      Originally posted by Shad0wB0xer
      Canelo will have to be saved by his corner in this one. He just doesn't have the tools to deal with what Money brings to the table but then again, who does?
      Who does?? Castillo and Oscar did. They were robbed. Ortiz was on his way before the travesti. Martinez got tired of chasing him, so did Margarito. Cotto was on his way to at least a draw but had stamina issues. And, yes, Pacman got sick and tired of chasing his ugly asz.

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        #53
        Originally posted by INGLEWOOD
        I feel you with the corner stepping in to preserve the young fighter mentally. Thats a good point. Canelo is much better defensively then you give him credit for and hes very technical and smart. Canelo much faster then Mosley not even a fair comparison. He will catch Floyd question is how will Floyd hold up when he gets touched? Zab is still seeing stars from that Garcia ass-whoopin he got cuz Canelo is not a come forward aggressive fighter like he called him. That sounds like Peterson or Rios. Canelo stands in the center of the ring fighting of his back-foot waiting to counter and berly lets his hands go. How is that aggression? Zab is a tool.
        Canelo relying on his counter punching may come to his own detriment. Mayweather is a lot more accurate, and won't give him many chances to counter. Also, he has the longer reach, and is faster afoot as well as with hand speed. If Canelo chooses to rely on size and strength it may be his best chance, because he definitely can not out skill him

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        • Reloaded
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          #54
          Originally posted by Pan-Africanist
          Canelo is there to sell the fight. The only one that can beat Floyd is Floyd. So start thinking of the next fighter Floyds ducking already.
          That's how it is , they all were crying he was ducking Canelo , now he is a no threat , well whats new , nobody at WW can touch Floyd so now he is fighting the best JMW , whats next in trying to beat Floyd MW , LH , it never changes with Floyd , the guy is an ATG and Im just happy to watch him work , this fight will do huge numbers .

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            #55
            Originally posted by Reloaded
            That's how it is , they all were crying he was ducking Canelo , now he is a no threat , well whats new , nobody at WW can touch Floyd so now he is fighting the best JMW , whats next in trying to beat Floyd MW , LH , it never changes with Floyd , the guy is an ATG and Im just happy to watch him work , this fight will do huge numbers .
            Only cos WWs are weak at the moment but he avoided a great one in Pac. Not sure if Bradley could beat Floyd, but I don't see why Floyd shouldn't fight him, hes American so it would be interesting.
            Hes not fighting the best LMW, as hes fighting at 152 and if he did fight a MW, he would drain them down to either 154 for a LMW fight, or if brave hed fight at MW with a CW of 155
            Last edited by hugh grant; 06-21-2013, 07:43 PM.

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              #56
              It is hard to say, Floyd is fighting the weakest version of Canelo.

              Catchweight Queen Floyd made sure to take a significant advantage before accepting the bout with Canelo.

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                #57
                Originally posted by ThatDude44
                Hatton tried his rough house tactics, Judah was arguably winning the 1st 4 rounds, Moseley rocked him, De La Hoya wasn't a walk in the park until later and Cotto was pretty tough. Floyds been through adversity in the ring. He's just smart and is able to adjust to , I believe, ANYTHING!
                Problems :

                Hatton was small the ref interfered with his fight constantly, JR Ran from a smaller guy until Hatton out of frustration ran into a punch.

                Judahs quit, he should have become more intense but instead he quit like the last of his fights show

                Mosley was too dang old

                ODH too old couldn't pull the trigger

                CANELO :

                Not small

                stronger punch than all you produced

                Not old but young

                Can pull the trigger

                Jrs adversity was very short lived.

                WHAT will he do when its LONG LIVED ???? What will he do the day he can't get away ???????? What will he do when he can't get away and is getting hit and hit very hard ????

                WILL he stand and FIGHT

                OR

                WILL HE QUIT LIKE HIS UNCLE ?????????

                We don't know do we ??

                or

                do we ?

                Signs point to a quitter

                No one should quit against those you know you can beat

                but

                what about the THREATS ??????

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                • HarvardBlue
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                  #58
                  Judah is right, Canelo is made for Mayweather. I still don't see it as a shut out for Floyd. Canelo has a fighter's heart. I'm not sure if his so called stamina issues isn't self inflicted. I have a feeling he's confident he can turn it on whenever he wants so he takes these long breaks. Unfortunately, he won't be able to take breaks with Floyd. The bottom line is Canelo has to be perfect in this fight. Floyd just have to be Floyd. Hurting Floyd will not change the game plan. Floyd is a risk averted fighter so if he gets hurt he's still not taking extra precautions because that's his way of fighting. We know Canelo isn't out boxing Mayweather. The question is can he hurt him bad enough to take Floyd's heart. I don't see it but anything is possible in boxing.

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                  • ADP02
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                    #59
                    Originally posted by twosweethooks
                    IF Canelo is afraid to get hit , then he better bow out now and proclaim the kingdom to JR

                    BUT

                    IF Canelo isn't afraid of getting hit and can be more Marciano like, in Pressing , punching and taking Jr to the trenches of which he has NEVER BEEN IN all the while shutting down Jr's exits and beating his arms biceps elbows, gloves he might get to that body. Forget the head until he has pounded that body.

                    Canelo will have to do as Pauli stated, take JR to deep waters, Jr has never been in deep waters or the trenches and ONE NEVER KNOWS WHAT THEY MIGHT DO when they get there, so we don't know what JR will do its all speculation. HE might QUIT like unc ROG did agin Chavez,,,how bout dat?

                    IF Canelo lets up from round 1 its OVER for him

                    IF Canelo lets up in any round its over for him.

                    So far Jr hasn't had power over anyone he just frustrates the fool outa them, LOL

                    All Canelo needs is use his Strength and power, what speed he has, what skill he has and get on top of JR and SHUT DOWN JR's EXITS and start pounding away.

                    JR has ALWAYS gotten away.

                    Jr has at WW ALWAYS CHERRY PICKED fighting guys that he knows he can get away from

                    JR went out of his way to discredit Pacman , what 4 years ago? HE KNEW ,,,JR KNEW HE COULD NOT GET AWAY FROM PAC and that if anyone could beat him it would be Pac, so he went on a tirad to make sure he would never have to fight him.

                    Guerrero had the gameness to stay but didn't have the speed to shut down the EXITS


                    My question is Does CANELO have the speed to shut down JR's EXITS
                    ?????
                    While reading your post that is what I was going to say. Canelo does not fight like Judah or you are stating. Yes, he can be aggressive but he doesn't fight with the kind of movement that would indicate that he can "shut down Jrs EXITS"

                    Canelo usually has guys that are willing to fight and when they are hurt they don't move much. So Canelo eventually gets to them.

                    Floyd will move. Canelo will have to MOVE to cut down the ring and will have to improve on his work-rate and stamina issues. There is so much that Canelo needs to improve on that it's highly unlikely that he does.

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                    • ADP02
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                      #60
                      Originally posted by Reloaded
                      That's how it is , they all were crying he was ducking Canelo , now he is a no threat , well whats new , nobody at WW can touch Floyd so now he is fighting the best JMW , whats next in trying to beat Floyd MW , LH , it never changes with Floyd , the guy is an ATG and Im just happy to watch him work , this fight will do huge numbers .
                      If Floyd's name was Manny, all you would be doing is crying that:
                      "Manny drains Canelo who already has stamina issues ..... what a disgrace ..... I hate CWs "

                      but since his name is Floyd, all is well with Reloaded

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