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  • LacedUp
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    #131
    Originally posted by hitking
    Na, I'm saying Ward beat the breaks off of Froch so the whole debate of who needs who more or who has fought the better guys outside of each other is moot.
    If you can't see that Ward needs Froch more than Froch needs Ward then that's on you man. Froch has 5 top options right now: Hopkins, Kessler III, Ward, Cleverly, Groves.

    Ward has one: Froch.

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    • hitking
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      #132
      Originally posted by The Weebler II
      Except it was Hopkins who proposed the catchweight. As I said, Froch already tried to make the fight years ago.
      If that's the case, he should have made the fight.

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      • Light_Speed
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        #133
        Originally posted by LacedUp
        Taylor was a mandatory and it was agreed upon before Froch fought Pascal. Further than that, the fight sold like 4000 tickets. Hardly the "biggest name" anyone could fight.
        You don't measure that based on tickets sold. How many people tuned in? How much money did Froch make? Could he have made that much against anybody else at that stage? Also that was his first fight with Showtime if I'm not mistaken.

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          #134
          Originally posted by Light_Speed
          Taylor was the biggest name he could have fought at this point in his career. Like I said, Froch wasn't a big name didn't have a powerful promoter so he took the biggest fight he could take.
          Indeed. And you don't give him credit. That's mindboggling since most would have milked their newly won belt with an easy defense at home. Why can't you understand that?


          The Bute fight was the kind of opportunity that fighters don't get when they're coming off a loss. When you get dominated, lose your belt, and then a big payday falls on your lap, what do you do? Especially if you're in your mid 30s and you don't have much time left in the sport.
          A lot of people would have taken an easier fight after the asswhooping Froch received from Ward. Not Froch though. He takes on the most dangerous opponent possible and yet you again fail to give Froch credit.

          Damn.

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            #135
            Originally posted by hitking
            So after the Tito fight, you don't ever remember fans a media talking about Hopkins possibily going over and challenging Calzage since Joe wouldn't come over here. And ultimately, the fight never materialized, mainly because Hopkins honestly was more focused on luring DLH up.
            No. There might have been some namedropping, but as you said yourself it was DLH that was the priority. So you fail.

            And when RJ was fighting his bum-of-the-month club opponents prior to Ruiz (who was simply a bigger bum), RJ was talked about fighting overseas stars Darius Mickelchski and Joe Calzage, but he wouldn't go abroad to do it for fear of being robbed. You don't remember any of those debates among media and fans?
            LMAO!

            1: Roy never wanted to go overseas
            2: Ottke was just about retired at the time
            3: Roy was thought of as an opponent for Michalszewski anyway. Not Calzaghe.

            So you fail again.

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            • hitking
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              #136
              Originally posted by LacedUp
              If you can't see that Ward needs Froch more than Froch needs Ward then that's on you man. Froch has 5 top options right now: Hopkins, Kessler III, Ward, Cleverly, Groves.

              Ward has one: Froch.
              I'm doing a lotta defending of Ward, mainly because Froch's fans are delusional and ******. But ultimately, Ward is at fault for the situation he's in. He has options, he just doesn't wanna take them because he doesn't wanna leave the comfort zone (the super middleweight division that's he's already laid waste to.) Ward could easily move up to light heavy and start cleaning out that division. Instead, he'd rather sit back and wait for middleweight stars to come to him. That's on him. But ultimately, all he's gonna have while he's waiting is chasing around recycled victims like Froch that really want no part of him.

              As for Froch, as long as he's fighting in the same division as Ward, he'll need Ward more to be relevant, no matter how many "options" he has. Because regardless of whom he fights and beats, the question will always remain, "when are you gonna fight Ward?" Because seeing Ward, he can't be considered the best. And that's in a P4P sense too. Ward is gonna be a thorn in his ass that's never going away. No matter how much he or his fans try and downplay and dismiss it.

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              • Light_Speed
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                #137
                Originally posted by BattlingNelson
                Indeed. And you don't give him credit. That's mindboggling since most would have milked their newly won belt with an easy defense at home. Why can't you understand that?


                A lot of people would have taken an easier fight after the asswhooping Froch received from Ward. Not Froch though. He takes on the most dangerous opponent possible and yet you again fail to give Froch credit.

                Damn.
                He already won the belt at home. They moved him along quickly because of his age, same thing they're doing with Stevenson.

                Froch deserves credit but not more credit than everybody else. Trout won his title against a mexican in Mexico and most of his defenses were away from his home state, Cunningham fought most of his title fights outside of his home country, same goes for GGG. Kessler fought Mundine in Australia, Calzaghe in Wales, Ward in the U.S. and Froch in the UK, he's more of a road warrior than Froch. Why is Froch considered such a god of war for doing what a lot of fighters are doing?
                Last edited by Light_Speed; 06-20-2013, 07:58 AM.

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                  #138
                  Originally posted by Light_Speed
                  He already won the belt at home. They moved him along quickly because of his age, same thing they're doing with Stevenson.

                  Froch deserves credit but not more credit than everybody else. Trout won his title against a mexican in Mexico and most of his defenses were away from his home state, Cunningham fought most of his title fights outside of his home country, same goes for GGG. Kessler fought Mundine in Australia, Calzaghe in Wales, Ward in the U.S. and Froch in the UK, he's more of a road warrior than Froch. Why is Froch considered such a god of war for doing what a lot of fighters are doing?
                  Froch is a rare breed. He took the fights when he didn't have to. Cunningham HAD to fight abroad or else he wouldn't get paid as he has no fanbase. Some for GGG.

                  Hail Froch.

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                  • hitking
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                    #139
                    Originally posted by BattlingNelson
                    No. There might have been some namedropping, but as you said yourself it was DLH that was the priority. So you fail.


                    LMAO!

                    1: Roy never wanted to go overseas
                    2: Ottke was just about retired at the time
                    3: Roy was thought of as an opponent for Michalszewski anyway. Not Calzaghe.

                    So you fail again.
                    OK buddy. If you think during Calzage's decade long reign as super middleweight champ, Ottke was the better guy, that's on you. But if a poll is taken among historians. I'd say that historically Calzage will rate a lil bit higher than Ottke P4P and as a super middleweight. #sarcasim

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                    • yoz
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                      #140
                      Originally posted by hitking
                      Ward carries the 'I BUTTED & CLINCHED MY WAY TO VICTORY AGAINST MIKKEL KESSLER' belt
                      Corrected it for you...

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