Comments Thread For: Froch: Ward Brings Little Revenue, Kessler III is Priority

[Weebler I]

That "Froch is a take-on-all-comers warrior stuff is nonsense. He waiting until Kessler retired due to health reasons and then unretired to fight him. He wants no part of a Ward rematch. And he won't even fight Hopkins or Cleverly claiming he's too small to fight as a light heavy. I give Froch credit for taking calculated risk when he's had to and being for the most part successful doing them. But for the most part, Froch is a good fighter that over the last year or so has become one of the most overrated fighters in the game with one of the most delusional fanbases to match.

This isn't true, Froch said he'd be willing to fight Hopkins at 171 or 172lbs. Froch tried to make the Hopkins fight in 2011.

It's Hearn that doesn't want him to fight Hopkins, Cleverly or Ward right now. Hearn didn't want him to fight Bute either but Froch said a lesser fight wouldn't motivate him.

[foxingstance]

I swear, the Ward-Froch debate is even dumber than the Floyd-Manny one. At least with Floyd-Manny, it was debateable as to who was better because we didn't have a head-to-head meeting. We KNOW Ward is better. And we KNOW that is why Froch wants to avoid another fight as long as possible. Yet his fans defend him and try and act like Ward is the one in need of redemption. Its mind boggling to me. The only thing I can think of that compares is when after B-Hop beat Tito, Roy Jones' haters hoped on the B-Hop bandwagon and acted as if Roy "needed" B-Hop to somehow prove his greatness, even though he had a clear victory over him already.

I dont think it is a debate, i think anyone of actual sound mind is aware that ward wins 9 times out of ten. And if i was ward id be jumping all over the chance to go england, get a massive payday and up my popularity a shed load....... so why wont he??

[Mr. Philadel]

if Froch doesn't want the rematch with Ward...thats fine!!....but to keep mentioning his name is almost as comical as Froch being called THE MAN at 168....since Froch can't **** with Ward INSIDE the ring he attacks him with OUTSIDE the ring long distance jabs

I like Froch alot, in fact...I picked him to win the S6....I thought he'd beat Ward as well....so I rock with Froch heavy...so heavy that I felt it was flat out disrespectful for most posters here to pick Bute over him...that **** made me mad as ****

Froch need to chill with the SOG name dropping....he sounds like a politician!!

[Light_Speed]

Didn't he fight pascal, Taylor, Bute and Kessler outside of the super six? Who exactly did Ward beat outside of the super six? A weight drained chad dawson? Lol

The Pascal fight was his first title opportunity. Froch wasn't a big name and didn't have a big name promoter, most fighters in his position take the first title shot they can get, regardless of the opponent.

Like I said earlier, the Bute fight was a golden opportunity. Imagine getting dominated and losing your title and then you get offered an immediate title shot against the #2 guy in the division who is also a lucrative opponent, who in his position would turn that down?

Kessler rematch was the biggest money fight at 168.

Weight drained Dawson was still considered a threat. He also fought Bika who is as tough as they come.

Yusaf Mack?

That "Froch is a take-on-all-comers warrior stuff is nonsense. He waiting until Kessler retired due to health reasons and then unretired to fight him. He wants no part of a Ward rematch. And he won't even fight Hopkins or Cleverly claiming he's too small to fight as a light heavy. I give Froch credit for taking calculated risk when he's had to and being for the most part successful doing them. But for the most part, Froch is a good fighter that over the last year or so has become one of the most overrated fighters in the game with one of the most delusional fanbases to match.

I respect him, he IS a warrior but I'm tired of this myth that he goes out of his way to seek the hardest fights. He didn't even choose his opponent in most of his toughest fights.

Ward-Bute was arguably the second most lucrative fight in boxing at the time. Most fighters would have taken it.

Ward wanted to let it build up. Listen to his recent interviews, he's talking about PPV. He had a legit undefeated champion as a potential opponent and he just wanted to milk it. Didn't turn out well but can't fault him for trying.

[Arsene Knows]

Ward wanted to let it build up. Listen to his recent interviews, he's talking about PPV. He had a legit undefeated champion as a potential opponent and he just wanted to milk it. Didn't turn out well but can't fault him for trying.

Froch could have done something similar. Fight a Steiglitz and take a belt so the Bute fight would be more lucrative. Fight a Kelly Pavlik (as Ward was planning to do ). Hell, he could have fought a domestic fight against someone like Cleverly which would have been on PPV (Bute fight was NOT PPV in the UK).

Froch had a far more grueling schedule than Ward, he deserves credit for taking the Bute fight straight after the Super Six. And a Ward fan is in no position to criticise him for taking that fight when your boy didn't want it.

[Weebler I]

Yusaf Mack?

Was supposed to be Oosthuizen but he rejected the offer.

I respect him, he IS a warrior but I'm tired of this myth that he goes out of his way to seek the hardest fights.

I think you're going too far. It's not Ward, but Kessler III is yet another hard fight, probably tougher physically.

[Skip Bayless]

froch shook. i bet that beating in the first fight still haunts him.

[Light_Speed]

Froch could have done something similar. Fight a Steiglitz and take a belt so the Bute fight would be more lucrative. Fight a Kelly Pavlik (as Ward was planning to do ). Hell, he could have fought a domestic fight against someone like Cleverly which would have been on PPV (Bute fight was NOT PPV in the UK).

Froch had a far more grueling schedule than Ward, he deserves credit for taking the Bute fight straight after the Super Six. And a Ward fan is in no position to criticise him for taking that fight when your boy didn't want it.

Froch wasn't in the position to do that. He was beltless and coming off a one-sided loss. No guarantee Stieglitz would have fought him, no guarantee he would receive an opportunity like that ever again. Against Cleverly he would have had to move up, which he doesn't want to do.

I'm not criticizing Froch, I'm just giving his fans a reality check. If you look at his career closely you'll realize that a lot of fighters in his position would have taken the path that he took.

[BattlingNelson]

Well then give credit to everybody who participated, don't act like Froch selected his opponents cause it's BS.

I give credit to all of them. Particularly those willing to travel.

You should really be more appreciative of Froch.

After Pascal he fights jermain Taylor in Taylor's backyard. Many promotors would have ensured an easy defence for their fighter as a first fight after winning a belt.

After the s6 again Froch could have taken an easy fight after a grueling schedule and yet he elects to sign not one but two fights with the best available fighter in undefeated Lucian Bute.

I don't understand your hate. I simply don't.

[Arsene Knows]

Froch wasn't in the position to do that. He was beltless and coming off a one-sided loss. No guarantee Stieglitz would have fought him, no guarantee he would receive an opportunity like that ever again. Against Cleverly he would have had to move up, which he doesn't want to do.

I'm not criticizing Froch, I'm just giving his fans a reality check. If you look at his career closely you'll realize that a lot of fighters in his position would have taken the path that he took.

The point is he had other options. Most fighters would have actually even taken a paycut to fight a lesser opponent (like Ward).