Is it possible that May is overrated???

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  • soul_survivor
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    #161
    I think it depends on the view point you have. If you believe Floyd is a certified ATG, comparable with Ali, SRL, Robinson, Hagler etc etc then yes, he is overrated. If your view is that he is one of the best technicians of the last decade with a somewhat questionable resume then no, he is not overrated.

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      #162
      I don't see how he is overrated. He is the best of THIS era. Not the best of all time. Like I said before he and Manny were just born at the wrong time of boxing. They are not the best of all time but they are still up there with the best. If Floyd had POWER to dismantle his opponents then he would damn near be a perfect fighter. But he has to rely on his defense to make up for what he doesn't have. Not saying he doesn't have power. He just doesn't have the same power he had when he was in the lower weight classes. Also the era that they made a name for themselves was a weak era in boxing. Even Floyd admitted this.

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        #163
        Originally posted by Zano-24
        I don't see how he is overrated. He is the best of THIS era. Not the best of all time. Like I said before he and Manny were just born at the wrong time of boxing. They are not the best of all time but they are still up there with the best. If Floyd had POWER to dismantle his opponents then he would damn near be a perfect fighter. But he has to rely on his defense to make up for what he doesn't have. Not saying he doesn't have power. He just doesn't have the same power he had when he was in the lower weight classes. Also the era that they made a name for themselves was a weak era in boxing. Even Floyd admitted this.
        that is one big IF

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          #164
          Boxing has what 130-140 years of solid history?

          14 ten year periods, anyone who is on top for that sort of period deserves a lot of praise. All a guy has to do beat Floyd is take 6 rounds off him and get one even, and one guy came close who was one hell of a fighter in what was probably the best fight he fought in his career (from just how he fought he showed a lot in the Corrales and Johnston fights but from a pure boxing standpoint the first Floyd fight is his best effort win or lose). If Floyd was vastly overrated, his career would have a lot more bumps in the road.

          If you rate Floyd to his peers which is the fairest way going across eras then Floyd could rank real high because Floyd compares favorably with his contemporaries (it is at least a fair argument) thus would deserve a high ranking, if you are comparing him directly to people of the past he wouldn't rank high but that is a hard way to compare because almost no one here knows enough to rank people going back in time fairly.

          I hate when people who use resume to talk greatness, because that isn't fair to current fighters as it is easier to know more about current fighters thus knock their resume while a lot of the ***** of past guys are lost to history, I always like using my eyes to judge guys in that ring and my eyes tell me Floyd is very uncommon and I don't expect to see a fighter similar to him any time soon.

          Is he perfect? Not even close. Is he unbeatable? No, but he would generally be a tough guy to beat. Could his career have been better? Yes, but who couldn't have done more and there is really one important fight he missed, and he will always get marked down for that no matter what the deal was. So if you think either of the first two question are true instead of false then you would be over rating him, if in relation to the third you think his career could have been vastly better with a couple different choices and one mega fight I would say you are under rating him (and all the quality fighter he did handle).

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            #165
            Originally posted by The Gambler1981
            Boxing has what 130-140 years of solid history?

            14 ten year periods, anyone who is on top for that sort of period deserves a lot of praise. All a guy has to do beat Floyd is take 6 rounds off him and get one even, and one guy came close who was one hell of a fighter in what was probably the best fight he fought in his career (from just how he fought he showed a lot in the Corrales and Johnston fights but from a pure boxing standpoint the first Floyd fight is his best effort win or lose). If Floyd was vastly overrated, his career would have a lot more bumps in the road.

            If you rate Floyd to his peers which is the fairest way going across eras then Floyd could rank real high because Floyd compares favorably with his contemporaries (it is at least a fair argument) thus would deserve a high ranking, if you are comparing him directly to people of the past he wouldn't rank high but that is a hard way to compare because almost no one here knows enough to rank people going back in time fairly.

            I hate when people who use resume to talk greatness, because that isn't fair to current fighters as it is easier to know more about current fighters thus knock their resume while a lot of the ***** of past guys are lost to history, I always like using my eyes to judge guys in that ring and my eyes tell me Floyd is very uncommon and I don't expect to see a fighter similar to him any time soon.

            Is he perfect? Not even close. Is he unbeatable? No, but he would generally be a tough guy to beat. Could his career have been better? Yes, but who couldn't have done more and there is really one important fight he missed, and he will always get marked down for that no matter what the deal was. So if you think either of the first two question are true instead of false then you would be over rating him, if in relation to the third you think his career could have been vastly better with a couple different choices and one mega fight I would say you are under rating him (and all the quality fighter he did handle).
            at least you didn't wall of text us.......

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              #166
              Originally posted by RicDaRula
              at least you didn't wall of text us.......
              uhhhh at least you responded~?

              I guess that is a response anyways even though it is really saying nothing~

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                #167
                He's the truth.

                YOU CANT HANDLE THE TRUTH

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                  #168
                  Originally posted by The Gambler1981
                  from just how he fought he showed a lot in the Corrales fights but from a pure boxing standpoint the first Floyd fight is his best effort win or lose).

                  Comparing Broner to Floyd at lighter weights ...... Mosley said this after 2:50 mark

                  "but Corrales has to lose 30lbs in 2 weeks ....his opposition people may say was better but were they really healthy?"

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                    #169
                    Originally posted by ADP02
                    Comparing Broner to Floyd at lighter weights ...... Mosley said this after 2:50 mark

                    "but Corrales has to lose 30lbs in 2 weeks ....his opposition people may say was better but were they really healthy?"



                    I wan't talking about Floyd-Corrales, I was talking about JLC-Corrales~ which is why I put Johnston in there because those were good JLC performances also it is why it is in parenthesis because it is a totally different topic.

                    His fight against Floyd is the best fight he fought in his career~

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