I think ward should retire and concentrate more on his commentating fights on hbo!

[Tay Roc]

Marquez can stake claim to #3 pound for pound.

No way he's above Ward. Please.

It took Marquez four fights to finally get a W over Pac. Eric Morales did it in his first fight with Pac.

Marquez was dominated by Mayweather. Lost to Chris John. Was afraid to fight prime Naseem Hamed, and has overall been on the canvas way too many times to be considered better than Andre Ward.

Ward is undefeated and has dominated the top fighters in his division (Froch, Kessler). Beat the #1 guy in the Light Heavyweight Division, and beat the #1 guy (at the time) in the 160 division (AA).

The kid is the goods.

I think you're putting too much weight on his undefeated record. He has three pretty good wins: Dawson (drained), Froch & Kessler. Aside from Dawson, the other two are severely limited and unathletic fighters, and the third was a shell of his former self.

Marquez's record is more of a reflection of boxing politics than his actual wins/losses. He won at least 2-3 of the his fights against Pacquiao even if he didn't receive the actual decision. Furthermore, he did not lose to Chris John IMO.

Why does it even matter that he's hit the canvas? The only reason he changed his style was to become more marketable, and that is why he gets knocked down. Ward needs to take note and try and make more exciting fights by fighting more like Marquez. He's not mayweather. There's a reason he can only fill an arena in Oakland and no where else. He's a top 3 p4p fighter but gets paid garbage. There's also a reason for that.