sergey kovalev v nathan cleverly...who wins?

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  • King_
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    #21
    Originally posted by LacedUp
    I'm sure we can both agree that Campillo is not on the same level as Cleverly. He was beaten years ago by a guy Cleverly beat like a hillbilly on his wife.

    Cleverly has a great chin, ok power, but greatwork rate and skill. When a great boxer meets a great puncher- the boxer usually wins. And Cleverly is better than him imo. I hope this fight happens though!
    Kovalev is a good boxer and very technically sound himself, with a decent amateur background as well. Like Dan said..... A lot of people see a guy with KOs and heavy hands and assume he's a face first brawler with no skills. Kovalev is the same with GGG in this regard.... Both are very good boxers who just happen to have devastating knock out power. It's all just a big myth. People here think GGG can't box and is a brawler, but the fact of the matter is you don't have over 350 amateur wins without being a good boxer first, period.

    That's what makes Kovalev so scary. Don't let the power fool you.

    IMO.

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    • dan_cov
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      #22
      Warren never offered Shumenov Feb. 25 Unification fight vs. Cleverly
      January 3rd, 2012 | Post Comment

      LAS VEGAS (January 3, 2012) – Hall of Fame promoter Don Chargin, advisor for World Boxing Association (“WBA”) and International Boxing Association (“IBA”) light heavyweight World champion Beibut Shumenov, has responded to a press release issued by Frank Warren Promotions that claimed Shumenov turned down a unification offer to fight World Boxing Organization (“WBO”) titlist Nathan Cleverly.

      The press release announced that Cleverly will be defending his WBO title February 25 against Tommy Karpency in Wales. It also claimed: An offer went to WBA title-holder Beibut Shumenov to face Cleverly, but he said he would not be ready in time – although it could happen later this year.

      Back in November, Chargin reached out to Warren, after reading stories that Cleverly was interested in a unification fight against Beibut. Chargin spoke twice to Warren’s matchmaker, Dean Powell, but Don didn’t hear back until he received an email yesterday.

      “I thought that it was strange to get an email just yesterday asking what it would take to get Beibut to come to the UK, especially where we had been talking by phone, and they never responded to our offer weeks ago for Cleverly to fight Beibut in Las Vegas,” Chargin said. “The next day they announce a fight between Cleverly and Karpency? The truth of the matter is Beibut never turned down any fight against Cleverly because they didn’t make an offer to us. We offered them a fight against Shumenov in Las Vegas and they never even responded to that offer, which, to me, means they turned it down. To say Beibut wouldn’t be ready in time to fight Cleverly in two months is quite amusing. Beibut’s been ready to unify since he first won the WBA title. I am terribly disappointed that they would make false statements like that.”

      Shumenov (12-1, 8 KOs), a 2004 Kazakhstan Olympian, set a light heavyweight record for capturing a world title in the fewest career fights, 10, when (Jan. 29, 2010) he won a 12-round decision against Gabriel Campillo in Las Vegas. In three successful world title defenses, Shumenov won a unanimous 12-round decision versus No. 1 mandatory challenger and previously undefeated Viacheslav Uzelkov (UDEC12), followed by a six-round knockout of three-time world champion William Joppy (KO6), and then his victory last July by ninth-round TKO versus three-time world title challenger Danny Santiago.

      In only 13 pro fights, Beibut has defeated four world champions (Campillo, Joppy, Byron Mitchell and Montell Griffin), as well as three world title challengers (Uzelkov, Santiago and Epifanio Mendoza

      For more information about Shumenov visit www.KZEventProductions.com.

      About KZ Event Productions, Inc.

      KZ Event Productions is a full service, international boxing promotional company in Las Vegas, Nevada. Owned and operated by Beibut and Chingis Shumenov, its growing stable of champions include WBA/IBA light heavyweight World Champion Beibut Shumenov, WBA FEDALATIN welterweight champion Ravshan Hudaynazarov, WBA International light heavyweight champion Gayrat Ahmedov and WBA International light welterweight champion Alexandr Zhuravskiy.

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      • Arsene Knows
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        #23
        Originally posted by dan_cov
        Hopkins wants this fight in the U.K & Cleverly was steered away from Shumenov and instead opted to fight Tommy Karpency as for Froch he clearly had bigger fish to fry.
        Shumenov rejected an offer to fight in the UK and his manager couldn't get a US TV date. The point is that Cleverly is unfairly criticised for being "protected". Believe me, I used to say the same thing.

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          #24
          Originally posted by LacedUp
          I thought the last fight was questionable, the first one was a solid win for Murat imo.

          I think so too, but Cleverly is incredibly fast for LHW and he takes a good punch. He'll get in close and let the punches fly to the body and head from the get-go and I just see him stealing way too many rounds early on.

          But the Hopkins fight definitely makes more sense, both interest wise and financially, though Kovalev might be a closer fight. If Cleverly beats hopkins, I think he'd go for winner of Adonis/Bellew rather than Kovalev tbh.

          He is very fast hes also deceptively strong I mean hes quite a lanky guy but appears very strong. I think a lot of criticism comes from Frank Warren protecting him.

          I wouldn't blame him at all if he did that, in fact I think that would be smart and probably what anybody in his shoes would do and those IMO are all winnable fights for him. I'd definitely say there was less risk and more to gain from them than a fight with Kovalev.

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          • Arsene Knows
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            #25
            Originally posted by dan_cov
            Warren never offered Shumenov Feb. 25 Unification fight vs. Cleverly
            Warren showed the offer on camera

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              #26
              Originally posted by Arsene Knows
              Apparently this fight is happening in August so won't have to wait long to find out.
              Originally posted by ИATAS
              Don't hold your breath.
              Originally posted by Freedom2013
              Warren would never put Cleverly in with KOvalev.
              Originally posted by yoz
              My thoughts, too! Ha ha.


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              • Mr Ehrmantraut
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                #27
                Looking forward to the UK bookies making a complete mess of this and over pricing Kovalev.

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by Mr Ehrmantraut
                  Looking forward to the UK bookies making a complete mess of this and over pricing Kovalev.
                  Originally posted by Mr Ehrmantraut
                  Cleverly ain't fighting Kovalev. It's just a smokescreen while Warren scours Detroit for a bus boy.

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                  • deanrw
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                    #29
                    Cleverly just announced the fight is Signed, Sealed and Delivered.

                    The fight is officially on.

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by deanrw
                      Cleverly just announced the fight is Signed, Sealed and Delivered.

                      The fight is officially on.
                      Zack Mwekassa ‏@ZackMwekassa 4h
                      Sergey Kovalev is a mean puncher! hardest sparring partner i have had. Punches harder than Marco Huck, Robert Helenius.
                      Kovalev by KO inside 8 rounds.

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