For those who dislike catchweights

[Bushbaby]

This topic goes far and beyond Floyd Mayweather, but I can understand how Mayweather demanding the catch weight put more light into the situation, but this has more to do with the sport.

Yes homey, lets go on ahead and ignore the reasons why day before weight ins were implemented to defend good ole Floydie. Health risks, more important than little Floyd (campaigning as the best active fighter needing catchweights for Canelo but not for no one else).

lol yes yes you ask a question and everyone thinks its about defending floyd. Its more about logic in my case. I personally don't have a problem with catchweights if both fighters agree then do it. that goes for Manny's fights as well as floyd fights. But I do see a logical issue with being mad about a fight taking place under the limit but ok with it being over the limit come fight night?

And fighters health? really? well if they aren't making the weight in a healthy fashion shouldn't they then be fighting at a higher weight?

Lets try again, guy. Day before weight ins were implemented because of the concern for fighter safety. People are bashing Floyd cause he's a liar, hypocrit and a fraud.

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Canelo too big doe.

[hectari]

100% agree you can't go hard about hating catchweights when one fighter does it then try to defend it for another. I don't understand why we can't have a convo without people siding with one of those two fighters. If its right for one fighter its right for another and vice versa.

The thing is I had no problem with catchweights, the majority of people didn't, but some hypocrites were going hard at Pacman for using them, I always looked at catchweights as even ground for both fighters to meet and agree.

But the backlash from Pacquiao haters were extreme that is why now people are mad at Floyd for going back on his word and not living up to it and his fans defending it all of a sudden after calling Pacman the catchweight king.

the only way this is resolved is if the Floyd fans/Pac haters who hated catchweights and are not justifying this issue apologies, and admit they really had no problem with catchweights they just wanted to hate on Pacman to discredit him to big up Floyd.

[Bushbaby]

So it was healthy for Martinez to get rattled against a significantly bigger fighter in Chavez, that's not even normal, it looked more like a circus. Also, there is a difference between protecting a fighter's health and being plain ******. If any fighter gets hurt due to having to kill himself to make weight, that's on him.

The fight was at 160, with no catchweights. It was Martinez's job as a pro and Chavez too. Martinez is a small middleweight anyway, that's why the size advantage was apparent. But like a true "G", Martinez did not request catchweights, he did what top fighters do.

[RapidFire_Royce]

Yes homey, lets go on ahead and ignore the reasons why day before weight ins were implemented to defend good ole Floydie. Health risks, more important than little Floyd (campaigning as the best active fighter needing catchweights for Canelo but not for no one else).



Lets try again, guy. Day before weight ins were implemented because of the concern for fighter safety. People are bashing Floyd cause he's a liar, hypocrit and a fraud.

Laws seem to have a history of being implemented for one purpose then exploited for another. Yes it may have been implemented for fighters safety but then on the other side since there is no limit to how much someone can rehydrate and given how technological advancements have made it possible for some fighters to rehydrate to almost 20 lbs in 24hrs would it then be safe for one fighter to have a almost 2 weight class weight difference in a fight? is that safe? if so then what is the point of the weight divisions werent they placed for fighters safety as well?

[kiaba360]

Do you also dislike fighters re hydrating to over the limit as has become the custom? If its not ok for a fight to be made at 145lbs for a 147 title fight Why is it ok for a fighter to rehydrate well over that limit? If they weigh 155 the night they win the 147 lbs title should they really be considered the 147 lbs champ? How is this any different than coming in a couple pounds under the limit?

I have no issue with fight night weight/rehydration until it's clear that a fighter skill-set/attributes are being negatively affected. I wouldn't have a problem with forcing fighters to only rehydrate a certain amount (10lbs being the max). That would force fighters to stay in better shape out of the ring and fight in their correct weight class.

[RapidFire_Royce]

Floyd fans/Pac haters who hated catchweights and are not justifying this issue apologies, and admit they really had no problem with catchweights they just wanted to hate on Pacman to discredit him to big up Floyd.

LOL That would be the day people in hell would have on sweatshirts and space heaters.

[Bushbaby]

Laws seem to have a history of being implemented for one purpose then exploited for another. Yes it may have been implemented for fighters safety but then on the other side since there is no limit to how much someone can rehydrate and given how technological advancements have made it possible for some fighters to rehydrate to almost 20 lbs in 24hrs would it then be safe for one fighter to have a almost 2 weight class weight difference in a fight? is that safe? if so then what is the point of the weight divisions werent they placed for fighters safety as well?

If both fighters meet the weight in limit, then the fight goes on. It was never a problem before Floyd and Pacman showed up and swapped places as catchweight kings.

Dominicano brought up Martinez/Chavez. Martinez didn't complain, he handled business like a boss. And Floyd and Pacman are supposed to be greater than him,lol.

[Doctor_Tenma]

The fight was at 160, with no catchweights. It was Martinez's job as a pro and Chavez too. Martinez is a small middleweight anyway, that's why the size advantage was apparent. But like a true "G", Martinez did not request catchweights, he did what top fighters do.

I'm not questioning Martinez's toughness at all. Martinez is known to have a good chin, Chavez is heavy handed but he's still an accumulative puncher and he nearly got the job done due to the size, that isn't healthy for all participants, mainly Martinez. So cut the bullshit man.

[RapidFire_Royce]

I have no issue with fight night weight until it's clear that a fighter skill-set/attributes are being negatively affected. I wouldn't have a problem with forcing fighters to only rehydrate a certain amount (10lbs being the max). That would force fighters to stay in better shape out of the ring and fight in their correct weight class.

Yes that would seem like the best solution. If not same day weigh ins (since that makes boxing less safe) maybe a re hydration limit I think that would be a good idea.