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    Do you also dislike fighters re hydrating to over the limit as has become the custom? If its not ok for a fight to be made at 145lbs for a 147 title fight Why is it ok for a fighter to rehydrate well over that limit? If they weigh 155 the night they win the 147 lbs title should they really be considered the 147 lbs champ? How is this any different than coming in a couple pounds under the limit?

  • #2
    Originally posted by RapidFire_Royce View Post
    Do you also dislike fighters re hydrating to over the limit as has become the custom? If its not ok for a fight to be made at 145lbs for a 147 title fight Why is it ok for a fighter to rehydrate well over that limit? If they weigh 155 the night they win the 147 lbs title should they really be considered the 147 lbs champ? How is this any different than coming in a couple pounds under the limit?
    This has been going on for years now. All of the sudden this is a hot topic because Floyd fans made a big deal about it. Ortiz came in at 164 vs Floyd. Nobody cared!!!!! If u can make the weight on the day of the weigh in, that's what u are fighting at. Period.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Big Rigg View Post
      This has been going on for years now. All of the sudden this is a hot topic because Floyd fans made a big deal about it. Ortiz came in at 164 vs Floyd. Nobody cared!!!!! If u can make the weight on the day of the weigh in, that's what u are fighting at. Period.
      Yeah I believe this whole ordeal brings this back to the forefront. I have never liked the idea of being able to rehydrate to almost two weight classes higher than the fight weight but it didn't seem like a huge issue. But now with people being so upset about catch weights when titles are involved I wonder if they are just as upset by fighters re hydrating to far beyond the limit.

      I agree weigh ins should def be the day of the fight. I think a lot of the rehydrating stuff goes away and some fighters would be force to move to their proper weight class.

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      • #4
        Damn, ain't dis some weaksauce argument to defend Floyd?

        Fact is, 99.9 percent of fighters gain weight after the way in. ( in fact the only 1 in recent memory who hasn't is (Floyd claiming he weighted less in the Cotto fight I believe)? Which was a lie, but of course his gullable fans slurped up the delusion like a slurpee.

        Come on kid that's why the weight ins are a day before now, for fighters health,lol!!

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Big Rigg View Post
          This has been going on for years now. All of the sudden this is a hot topic because Floyd fans made a big deal about it. Ortiz came in at 164 vs Floyd. Nobody cared!!!!! If u can make the weight on the day of the weigh in, that's what u are fighting at. Period.
          Just because it's been going on doesn't make it right, and actually I cared, as did plenty of other people who have brought up the fact that we need same day weigh ins.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Big Rigg View Post
            This has been going on for years now. All of the sudden this is a hot topic because Floyd fans made a big deal about it. Ortiz came in at 164 vs Floyd. Nobody cared!!!!! If u can make the weight on the day of the weigh in, that's what u are fighting at. Period.
            Yeah thats the only reason its a big deal is because of the hypocrites who were talking about how they hate Catchweights but were only vocal when Pacman did it. If they hated Catchweights why didn't they get mad when Floyd called JMM up to 144 and failed to make the catchweight? After all they claimed they hated catchweights well how come they didn't do it back then when Floyd was the first of the two to use one? Floyd was the first one so he is the real catchweight king yet no outcry, but when Pacman was about to take on Miguel Cotto they made a huge deal saying how they dont like catchweights how pacman is a fraud to boxing and all his records should be removed for draining cotto 2 pounds.

            Also when Pac fought Margo at 150 and Margo and rehydrated to 168 on fight night they didn't want to give pacman credit for taking so many blows in that fight against a larger man, instead they said so what Margarito was slow anyway and said that just shows he was drained if he rehydrated to 168, now they are claiming the catchweight is justified with Canelo because he rehydrates to 170 but it wasn't justified for Pacman when he fought Margarito because they said im hydrated back to 168 showed that he had to cut more pounds to make 150, and now they are saying this catchweight is different because Cotto was smaller than Canelo wouldnt that mean Cotto would be less effected with the catchweigth if he was smaller than Canelo who already has issues making 154 and stamina problems?

            These idiots should have never went hard at the catchweights on Pacman to try and discredit him, now it came back to bite them in that azz.
            Last edited by hectari; 06-05-2013, 10:23 AM.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Bushbaby View Post
              Damn, ain't dis some weaksauce argument to defend Floyd?

              Fact is, 99.9 percent of fighters gain weight after the way in. ( in fact the only 1 in recent memory who hasn't is (Floyd claiming he weighted less in the Cotto fight I believe)? Which was a lie, but of course his gullable fans slurped up the delusion like a slurpee.

              Come on kid that's why the weight ins are a day before now, for fighters health,lol!!
              This topic goes far and beyond Floyd Mayweather, but I can understand how Mayweather demanding the catch weight put more light into the situation, but this has more to do with the sport.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Bushbaby View Post
                Damn, ain't dis some weaksauce argument to defend Floyd?

                Fact is, 99.9 percent of fighters gain weight after the way in. ( in fact the only 1 in recent memory who hasn't is (Floyd claiming he weighted less in the Cotto fight I believe)? Which was a lie, but of course his gullable fans slurped up the delusion like a slurpee.

                Come on kid that's why the weight ins are a day before now, for fighters health,lol!!
                lol yes yes you ask a question and everyone thinks its about defending floyd. Its more about logic in my case. I personally don't have a problem with catchweights if both fighters agree then do it. that goes for Manny's fights as well as floyd fights. But I do see a logical issue with being mad about a fight taking place under the limit but ok with it being over the limit come fight night?

                And fighters health? really? well if they aren't making the weight in a healthy fashion shouldn't they then be fighting at a higher weight?

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by hectari View Post
                  Yeah thats the only reason its a big deal is because of the hypocrites who were talking about how they hate Catchweights but were only vocal when Pacman did it. If they hated Catchweights why didn't they get mad when Floyd called JMM up to 144 and failed to make the catchweight? After all they claimed they hated catchweights well how come they didn't do it back then when Floyd was the first of the two to use one? Floyd was the first one so he is the real catchweight king yet no outcry, but when Pacman was about to take on Miguel Cotto they made a huge deal saying how they dont like catchweights how pacman is a fraud to boxing and all his records should be removed for draining cotto 2 pounds.

                  Also when Pac fought Margo at 150 and Margo and rehydrated to 168 on fight night they didn't want to give pacman credit for taking so many blows in that fight against a larger man, instead they said so what Margarito was slow anyway and said that just shows he was drained if he rehydrated to 168, now they are claiming the catchweight is justified with Canelo because he rehydrates to 170 but it wasn't justified for Pacman when he fought Margarito because they said im hydrated back to 168 showed that he had to cut more pounds to make 150, and now they are saying this catchweight is different because Cotto was smaller than Canelo wouldnt that mean Cotto would be less effective with the catchweigth if he was smaller than Canelo who already has issues making 154 and stamina problems?

                  These idiots should have never went hard at the catchweights on Pacman to try and discredit him, now it came back to bite them in that azz.
                  100% agree you can't go hard about hating catchweights when one fighter does it then try to defend it for another. I don't understand why we can't have a convo without people siding with one of those two fighters. If its right for one fighter its right for another and vice versa.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Bushbaby View Post
                    Come on kid that's why the weight ins are a day before now, for fighters health,lol!!
                    So it was healthy for Martinez to get rattled against a significantly bigger fighter in Chavez, that's not even normal, it looked more like a circus. Also, there is a difference between protecting a fighter's health and being plain ******. If any fighter gets hurt due to having to kill himself to make weight, that's on him.

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