Is Canelo a top 50 - p4p fighter?

[Salardo]

No Guerrero does not belong above Canelo because in a fantasy match up he would be heavily favored to lose the fight if he fought Canelo because Canelo is a much better boxer which is easily observed by anyone who knows anything about boxing. The same thing goes with most of the names you mention. And again to the guy asking about Russell Jr vs Froch who always asks that same question, I have answered before with I don't know, I haven't seen Russell Jr enough to comment but I also don't rate Froch so the question is irrelevant to the topic.

Guerrero is a better boxer than Canelo from what I have seen. And I watched a lot of fights of both of them. Maybe Canelo will become a better boxer than Guerrero in the future though.
I saw Guerrero school world class opponents. And of course Canelo would be heavily favored to beat Guerrero because he is way bigger. Guerrero fought at 130 pounds only 4 years ago, now he fights at welterweight, so of course a big 154 pounder will be favored to beat him.

[The Surgeon]

Thread starter is absolutely crazy with hate either on Canelo or Floyd. For starters, is it me or does nobody get P4P? It does not all rest on resume. It is about observing the skills and the intangibles that a fighter possesses and ranking them in a fantasy list based on their assets in comparison to the other fighters skills/intangibles. So if we are talking P4P, this guy thinks Robert Guerrero beats Canelo and Cunninngham and Burns and Kessler and whoever the hell else was on that crazy list? What a strange person TS is.

Exactly, i mean Erik Morales and Roy Jones have excellent resume's but u dont see them popping up, its a factor but not The sole factor!

[HeroBando]

No Guerrero does not belong above Canelo because in a fantasy match up he would be heavily favored to lose the fight if he fought Canelo because Canelo is a much better boxer which is easily observed by anyone who knows anything about boxing. The same thing goes with most of the names you mention. And again to the guy asking about Russell Jr vs Froch who always asks that same question, I have answered before with I don't know, I haven't seen Russell Jr enough to comment but I also don't rate Froch so the question is irrelevant to the topic.

So that means you're unqualified to put together a p4p list, if you're unfamiliar with a great young talent like GRJ. I mean, since you rank them by talent, there's gotta be all kinds of omissions there.

[HeroBando]

Guerrero is a better boxer than Canelo from what I have seen. And I watched a lot of fights of both of them. Maybe Canelo will become a better boxer than Guerrero in the future though.
I saw Guerrero school world class opponents. And of course Canelo would be heavily favored to beat Guerrero because he is way bigger. Guerrero fought at 130 pounds only 4 years ago, now he fights at welterweight, so of course a big 154 pounder will be favored to beat him.

Who are these world class opponents? I know it's shocking, cause of Guerrero's "4 division, 6x champ status" lol, but list Canelo vs Guerrero top 3 wins, and Canelo probably comes out ahead! Just try it, you might be surprised

[The Surgeon]

none of those guys should be ranked below Canelo. That just shows me you don't follow boxing on the world stage, you just follow fighters who are being hyped in america. Geale has beaten Sylvester, Sturm (both in Germany) and then Mundine. That puts him above Canelo because Canelo only fought 1 top 10 guy and got beaten according to most of the people who watched the fight.
Viloria and Khan may have had a loss recently but you don't just drop from the p4p list cause you lost a fight. Viloria and Khan had big wins before that. Huck basically has beaten everybody, Cunningham won against Adamek according to 99 % who watched the fight, then he lost to Tyson Fury. But again-you just don't drop out of the rankings because of one loss. All these guys are accomplished, world class fighters who beat the best guys in the division only a short time ago.

Yeah u got me....well done.

Sturm wasn't the fighter he used to be and isn't exactly brilliant at the best of times, Sylvester is pathetic and Mundine no better. And be Real Canelo CLEARLY won that fight and most people know it. Viloria is too inconsistent and Khan is too Fragile to be in Canelo's league, he has speed but makes too many mistakes and packs glass. Steve did deserve to beat Adamek but then he's not much more than average too and again just not as good as Canelo right now. Tyson Fury sux btw.

Resume isn't the only consideration to be made when making a p4p list anyway.

This thread is ridiculous

[The Surgeon]

Who are these world class opponents? I know it's shocking, cause of Guerrero's "4 division, 6x champ status" lol, but list Canelo vs Guerrero top 3 wins, and Canelo probably comes out ahead! Just try it, you might be surprised

Same with Golovkin and a few others, he seems to hold Canelo to a higher standard for some reason

[Bigg Rigg]

Guys are going hard trying to play the Irish Mexican wonder boy. Stop hating!!!

[HeroBando]

Same with Golovkin and a few others, he seems to hold Canelo to a higher standard for some reason

As a GGG fan, I wouldn't have him top 50 yet. Canelo frankly has a better resume, though mostly due to Trout. But as I said, one very good win is often enough, especially considering he's got no losses.

[Salardo]

Yeah u got me....well done.

Sturm wasn't the fighter he used to be and isn't exactly brilliant at the best of times, Sylvester is pathetic and Mundine no better. And be Real Canelo CLEARLY won that fight and most people know it. Viloria is too inconsistent and Khan is too Fragile to be in Canelo's league, he has speed but makes too many mistakes and packs glass. Steve did deserve to beat Adamek but then he's not much more than average too and again just not as good as Canelo right now. Tyson Fury sux btw.

Resume isn't the only consideration to be made when making a p4p list anyway.

This thread is ridiculous

all I needed to read from your comment was "And be Real Canelo CLEARLY won that fight and most people know it."
I went back to a certain thread here and more than half of the people had Trout winning. So that proves you do not care about the truth. It was a close fight and most people scored it for Trout, that is the truth. And you saying Sturm is a bum and Sylvester is a bum and Geale is a bum just proves to me that you are one of those guys who think everybody outside of america is a bum. You think I am gonna worry about your opinion? I have seen Mundine box and he is not a bum, actually I watched Mundine box many years ago and I have watched Sturm many years ago. Did I say Daniel Geale is a top 15 p4p fighter? No. I just said he is in the top 50 and Canelo is not at this point. And if you disagree with me for the reasons you mentioned then I know what you are all about.

[Salardo]

As a GGG fan, I wouldn't have him top 50 yet. Canelo frankly has a better resume, though mostly due to Trout. But as I said, one very good win is often enough, especially considering he's got no losses.

well Golovkin beat a lot of light middleweights so that is true, but: he beat Proksa very impressively and that one win means as much as Broner's win over DeMarco. So - that is to me more than Canelo's highly controversial "win" over Trout.