Is Canelo a top 50 - p4p fighter?

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  • Salardo
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    Is Canelo a top 50 - p4p fighter?

    Is Canelo in the top 50 pound-for-pound? I say a clear "no". You get in the p4p list by beating the best fighters in the division. I can clearly name 50 fighters who are at this point more accomplished than Canelo and deserving to be ranked above him in the p4p list.
    The thing is this: you don't become a p4p top 10 or top 20 fighter by beating guys who are either 2 weight classes smaller than you or 5 or 10 years past their prime. The ONLY top guy of the light middleweight division which Canelo fought is Austin Trout, and at least 50 % of all the people who scored the fight, thought that Trout won this fight.
    So - If Canelo would have fought and decisively or decisively enough beaten guys like James Kirkland, Erislandy Lara, Vanes Martirosyan, Carlos Molina, Bundrage, Miguel Cotto or aforementioned Austin Trout, THEN Canelo would be a top p4p fighter.
    Don't get me wrong, Canelo is a talented boxer, but there is NOTHING on his record that puts him in the top 50 of the p4p list. I can name 50 more accomplished fighters than him. And as you know - you are as good as you look against top opposition. And a highly disputed, controversial win against Trout is the only thing on Canelo's record at this point which can be taken into account when it comes to p4p rankings.
    Vote on the poll and if you think that Canelo is a top 50 or even a top 10 p4p fighter, then please explain why.
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    No, Canelo is not in the top 50
    29.76%
    25
    Yes, Canelo is in the top 50
    57.14%
    48
    Canelo is not just in the top 50, he is in the top 10.
    13.10%
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    Originally posted by Halls of Fame
    Is Canelo in the top 50 pound-for-pound? I say a clear "no". You get in the p4p list by beating the best fighters in the division. I can clearly name 50 fighters who are at this point more accomplished than Canelo and deserving to be ranked above him in the p4p list.
    The thing is this: you don't become a p4p top 10 or top 20 fighter by beating guys who are either 2 weight classes smaller than you or 5 or 10 years past their prime. The ONLY top guy of the light middleweight division which Canelo fought is Austin Trout, and at least 50 % of all the people who scored the fight, thought that Trout won this fight.
    So - If Canelo would have fought and decisively or decisively enough beaten guys like James Kirkland, Erislandy Lara, Vanes Martirosyan, Carlos Molina, Bundrage, Miguel Cotto or aforementioned Austin Trout, THEN Canelo would be a top p4p fighter.
    Don't get me wrong, Canelo is a talented boxer, but there is NOTHING on his record that puts him in the top 50 of the p4p list. I can name 50 more accomplished fighters than him. And as you know - you are as good as you look against top opposition. And a highly disputed, controversial win against Trout is the only thing on Canelo's record at this point which can be taken into account when it comes to p4p rankings.
    Vote on the poll and if you think that Canelo is a top 50 or even a top 10 p4p fighter, then please explain why.
    Please name the top 50 guys who are better than Canelo... Dude beat trout which was considered the top guy he could fight..
    Its debatable if he is top 10 but def he is top 25....

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    • Kagami Taiga
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      #3
      he is that much is clear.

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      • Bermuda
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        probably in top 40....only meaningful name on his resume is trout..

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        • dc3383
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          #5
          Yes he's a top 15 fighter

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          • Da Boxer
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            #6
            This thread = TRUTH!

            Op is right, who other than Trout has Canelo fought?






























































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            Yeap....nobody.

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            • Bolo Punch
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              Obviously.

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              • Salardo
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                #8
                Originally posted by Sugar Adam Ali
                Please name the top 50 guys who are better than Canelo... Dude beat trout which was considered the top guy he could fight..
                Its debatable if he is top 10 but def he is top 25....
                I don't know if those are 50, but if not, they are ALMOST 50:
                - I rank all those fighters above Canelo in the p4p list - and I will say it again: The only top fighter Canelo fought who was not smaller or past his prime, is Austin Trout and at least 50 % of all the people said that Trout beat Canelo. Here is the list:
                Floyd Mayweather
                Manny Pacquiao
                Sergio Martinez
                Andre Ward
                Juan Manuel Marquez
                Carl Froch
                Wladimir Klitschko
                Vitali Klitschko
                Bernard Hopkins
                Timothy Bradley
                Lucas Matthysse
                Danny Garcia
                Abner Mares
                Nonito Donaire
                Robert Guerrero
                Chad Dawson
                Gennady Golovkin
                Tomasz Adamek
                David Haye
                Steve Cunningham
                Marco Huck (not the most talented fighter, but has wins against high quality opponents on his record)
                Lucian Bute
                Jean Pascal
                Mikkel Kessler
                Daniel Geale
                Miguel Cotto
                Devon Alexander
                Amir Khan
                Adrien Broner
                Ricky Burns
                Richar Abril
                Yuriorkis Gamboa
                Takashi Uchiyama
                Mikey Garcia
                Chris John
                Juan Manuel Lopez
                Guillermo Rigondeaux
                Leo Santa Cruz
                Anselmo Moreno
                Shinsuke Yamanaka
                Omar Narvaez
                Brian Viloria
                Juan Francisco Estrada

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                • FeFist
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                  This is getting pathetic. I don't think Canelo is in the top 10 pound for pound ( he shouldn't be there) but top 50? Any fighter who is the no.1 in their division ( Overlooking shamefully poor divisions) should be inside of the top 50. They would be inside the top 30.

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                  • FeFist
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Halls of Fame
                    I don't know if those are 50, but if not, they are ALMOST 50:
                    - I rank all those fighters above Canelo in the p4p list - and I will say it again: The only top fighter Canelo fought who was not smaller or past his prime, is Austin Trout and at least 50 % of all the people said that Trout beat Canelo. Here is the list:
                    Floyd Mayweather
                    Manny Pacquiao
                    Sergio Martinez
                    Andre Ward
                    Juan Manuel Marquez
                    Carl Froch
                    Wladimir Klitschko
                    Vitali Klitschko
                    Bernard Hopkins
                    Timothy Bradley
                    Lucas Matthysse
                    Danny Garcia
                    Abner Mares
                    Nonito Donaire
                    Robert Guerrero
                    Chad Dawson
                    Gennady Golovkin
                    Tomasz Adamek
                    David Haye
                    Steve Cunningham
                    Marco Huck (not the most talented fighter, but has wins against high quality opponents on his record)
                    Lucian Bute
                    Jean Pascal
                    Mikkel Kessler
                    Daniel Geale
                    Miguel Cotto
                    Devon Alexander
                    Amir Khan
                    Adrien Broner
                    Ricky Burns
                    Richar Abril
                    Yuriorkis Gamboa
                    Takashi Uchiyama
                    Mikey Garcia
                    Chris John
                    Juan Manuel Lopez
                    Guillermo Rigondeaux
                    Leo Santa Cruz
                    Anselmo Moreno
                    Shinsuke Yamanaka
                    Omar Narvaez
                    Brian Viloria
                    Juan Francisco Estrada
                    Yeah, that's your problem. Many of the fighters on that list are not better than Canelo. Burns, Broner, Kessler, Geale..... Come on.

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