Is Canelo a top 50 - p4p fighter?

[HeroBando]

Dude I agree with almost all your choices, but Estrada is fine. He just beat Viloria, who was p4p top 15. And before that he gave Roman Gonzalez all he could handle, it could have gone either way

[Lords]

I agree with the fact that Canelo is an over hyped fighter but not cracking the top 50 P4P is a little bit out of line. I'd say he at least cracks the top 30.

[craigus1990]

Thread starter is absolutely crazy with hate either on Canelo or Floyd. For starters, is it me or does nobody get P4P? It does not all rest on resume. It is about observing the skills and the intangibles that a fighter possesses and ranking them in a fantasy list based on their assets in comparison to the other fighters skills/intangibles. So if we are talking P4P, this guy thinks Robert Guerrero beats Canelo and Cunninngham and Burns and Kessler and whoever the hell else was on that crazy list? What a strange person TS is.

[DannYankee]

I completely dismissed this thread until i read your 43 guys list... and then it almost made sense in a weird way BUT not really, he cracks the top 20 among those guys you mentioned deff not top 10 tho . But saying he is not cracking top 50 that just seems like hating to be honest.

[HeroBando]

Thread starter is absolutely crazy with hate either on Canelo or Floyd. For starters, is it me or does nobody get P4P? It does not all rest on resume. It is about observing the skills and the intangibles that a fighter possesses and ranking them in a fantasy list based on their assets in comparison to the other fighters skills/intangibles. So if we are talking P4P, this guy thinks Robert Guerrero beats Canelo and Cunninngham and Burns and Kessler and whoever the hell else was on that crazy list? What a strange person TS is.

So who ranks higher p4p, Froch or Russell Jr?

[Salardo]

Danny Garcia. Who he beat? Glass jaw Khan coming in off a loss? Ancient Eric? Old Zab? And its not all about your resume though it certainly helps. Canelo is just better and its plain to see.

Juanma Lopez. Guys sloppy as hell and is probably finished.

Richard Abril. Yeah he deserved to beat Bam Bam, so what Rios isn't anything elite. He has losses on the record to Lundy and Presscott too.

Geale is pump, Alvarez would even beat him now at Middle.
Steve Cunningham, Marco Huck, Estrada, Viloria, Khan...**** there's loads mate your just plain hating and its weak.

none of those guys should be ranked below Canelo. That just shows me you don't follow boxing on the world stage, you just follow fighters who are being hyped in america. Geale has beaten Sylvester, Sturm (both in Germany) and then Mundine. That puts him above Canelo because Canelo only fought 1 top 10 guy and got beaten according to most of the people who watched the fight.
Viloria and Khan may have had a loss recently but you don't just drop from the p4p list cause you lost a fight. Viloria and Khan had big wins before that. Huck basically has beaten everybody, Cunningham won against Adamek according to 99 % who watched the fight, then he lost to Tyson Fury. But again-you just don't drop out of the rankings because of one loss. All these guys are accomplished, world class fighters who beat the best guys in the division only a short time ago.

[Salardo]

Thread starter is absolutely crazy with hate either on Canelo or Floyd. For starters, is it me or does nobody get P4P? It does not all rest on resume. It is about observing the skills and the intangibles that a fighter possesses and ranking them in a fantasy list based on their assets in comparison to the other fighters skills/intangibles. So if we are talking P4P, this guy thinks Robert Guerrero beats Canelo and Cunninngham and Burns and Kessler and whoever the hell else was on that crazy list? What a strange person TS is.

Kessler, Guerrero, Cunningham are accomplished fighters who won multiple world titles over the last years by beating the best fighters in the division. So yes, they belong above Canelo in the ranking because of that. And as for this:

For starters, is it me or does nobody get P4P? It does not all rest on resume. It is about observing the skills and the intangibles that a fighter possesses

it is observing the skills WHILE THIS GUY IS IN THE RING WITH THE BEST FIGHTERS OF THAT DIVISION. A lot of guys look good fighting journeymen. There was only 1 top 10 guy Canelo ever fought and he lost that fight on many people's scorecards. So - you don't have a point there. Or: in your world a guy can beat 50 random people off the street and then he is undefeated in 50 fights and we put him in the top10 p4p, right?
I am not hating on Canelo, I just use my brain to distinguish between hype and accomplishments.

[mezoomozaa]

That what will make him beating Mayweather more funny !


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Please name your top 50

[yuppie]

Canelo is 22 years old, i wonder what the records of the fighters named had achieved or looked as talented at 22.

[craigus1990]

No Guerrero does not belong above Canelo because in a fantasy match up he would be heavily favored to lose the fight if he fought Canelo because Canelo is a much better boxer which is easily observed by anyone who knows anything about boxing. The same thing goes with most of the names you mention. And again to the guy asking about Russell Jr vs Froch who always asks that same question, I have answered before with I don't know, I haven't seen Russell Jr enough to comment but I also don't rate Froch so the question is irrelevant to the topic.