Is Canelo a top 50 - p4p fighter?

[Salardo]

Yeah, that's your problem. Many of the fighters on that list are not better than Canelo. Burns, Broner, Kessler, Geale..... Come on.

Okay then let's see: Burns beat Katsidis and Kevin Mitchell among others.
Broner beat Antonio DeMarco DECISIVELY who was the number 1 or number 2 guy at lightweight at that time.
Kessler is LIGHTYEARS above Canelo if you look at his wins. He only lost to Ward and Froch in the last 5 years or so.
Geale beat Felix Sturm and Sebastian Sylvester (2 pretty long reigning champions) BOTH IN GERMANY, then he beat Mundine.
Those 3 wins put Geale 2 levels above Canelo at this point.

[Salardo]

This is getting pathetic. I don't think Canelo is in the top 10 pound for pound ( he shouldn't be there) but top 50? Any fighter who is the no.1 in their division ( Overlooking shamefully poor divisions) should be inside of the top 50. They would be inside the top 30.

okay, then let's see at the top 10 boxrec light middleweight rankings:
http://boxrec.com/ratings.php?sex=m&...20Middleweight
Canelo fought only 1 guy of the top 10, which is obviously Trout, and I will say it again: at least 50 % of the people think Trout won this fight. I will say it again: Canelo ONLY FOUGHT TROUT who is in the top 10, he fought NONE of the other 8 top 10 fighters.
Here are the top 10
1. Canelo
2. Molina (fought MUCH BETTER opposition than Canelo and got robbed in most of those fights)
3. Trout: beat Delvin Rodriguez and Cotto and in my opinion beat Canelo as well.
4. Ishe Smith
5. Baysangurov
6. Bundrage
7. Erislandy Lara
8. Martirosyan
9. Cotto
10. Delvin Rodriguez

- So that makes him the number 1 guy of this division?: fighting only 1 guy of the top 10 and getting the "W" in a highly controversial, highly disputed decision? Okay.

[Jcsuper]

Is Canelo in the top 50 pound-for-pound? I say a clear "no". You get in the p4p list by beating the best fighters in the division. I can clearly name 50 fighters who are at this point more accomplished than Canelo and deserving to be ranked above him in the p4p list.
The thing is this: you don't become a p4p top 10 or top 20 fighter by beating guys who are either 2 weight classes smaller than you or 5 or 10 years past their prime. The ONLY top guy of the light middleweight division which Canelo fought is Austin Trout, and at least 50 % of all the people who scored the fight, thought that Trout won this fight.
So - If Canelo would have fought and decisively or decisively enough beaten guys like James Kirkland, Erislandy Lara, Vanes Martirosyan, Carlos Molina, Bundrage, Miguel Cotto or aforementioned Austin Trout, THEN Canelo would be a top p4p fighter.
Don't get me wrong, Canelo is a talented boxer, but there is NOTHING on his record that puts him in the top 50 of the p4p list. I can name 50 more accomplished fighters than him. And as you know - you are as good as you look against top opposition. And a highly disputed, controversial win against Trout is the only thing on Canelo's record at this point which can be taken into account when it comes to p4p rankings.
Vote on the poll and if you think that Canelo is a top 50 or even a top 10 p4p fighter, then please explain why.

[Bolo Punch]

Okay then let's see: Burns beat Katsidis and Kevin Mitchell among others.
Broner beat Antonio DeMarco DECISIVELY who was the number 1 or number 2 guy at lightweight at that time.
Kessler is LIGHTYEARS above Canelo if you look at his wins. He only lost to Ward and Froch in the last 5 years or so.
Geale beat Felix Sturm and Sebastian Sylvester (2 pretty long reigning champions) BOTH IN GERMANY, then he beat Mundine.
Those 3 wins put Geale 2 levels above Canelo at this point.

Ricky Burns beat a shot Katsidis and Mitchell, who were never that good in the first place. As much as I like Ricky, he's not as good as Alvarez.

[Salardo]

Ricky Burns beat a shot Katsidis and Mitchell, who were never that good in the first place. As much as I like Ricky, he's not as good as Alvarez.

first of all, I named around 50 fighters, and of course there are 2 or 3 who are not as clearly above Canelo as the other 48. So it is pretty easy to pick 1 fighter of the list I mentioned and say Canelo is better. But: do that with 5 fighters of my list. It won't happen.
Furthermore: Burns decisively beat Kevin Mitchell who impressively decisioned Breidis Prescott and knocked out John Murray. Furthermore Katsidis didn't look shot in that war against Burns. So those 2 wins put Burns above Canelo in my book.

[Bolo Punch]

first of all, I named around 50 fighters, and of course there are 2 or 3 who are not as clearly above Canelo as the other 48. So it is pretty easy to pick 1 fighter of the list I mentioned and say Canelo is better. But: do that with 5 fighters of my list. It won't happen.
Furthermore: Burns decisively beat Kevin Mitchell who knocked out Katsidis and decisioned Breidis Prescott. Furthermore Katsidis didn't look shot in that war against Burns. So those 2 wins put Burns above Canelo in my book.

You're crazy.

[FerFAL]

Top 50? Yes, top 30, no. Top 20 P4P hell no!
FerFAL

[Bermuda]

okay, then let's see at the top 10 boxrec light middleweight rankings:
http://boxrec.com/ratings.php?sex=m&...20Middleweight
Canelo fought only 1 guy of the top 10, which is obviously Trout, and I will say it again: at least 50 % of the people think Trout won this fight. I will say it again: Canelo ONLY FOUGHT TROUT who is in the top 10, he fought NONE of the other 8 top 10 fighters.
Here are the top 10
1. Canelo
2. Molina (fought MUCH BETTER opposition than Canelo and got robbed in most of those fights)
3. Trout: beat Delvin Rodriguez and Cotto and in my opinion beat Canelo as well.
4. Ishe Smith
5. Baysangurov
6. Bundrage
7. Erislandy Lara
8. Martirosyan
9. Cotto
10. Delvin Rodriguez

- So that makes him the number 1 guy of this division?: fighting only 1 guy of the top 10 and getting the "W" in a highly controversial, highly disputed decision? Okay.

not only #1 but the ring champ and top ten p4p by the ring lmao.........talk about hype job. if canelo wants to be considered #1 he needs to properly clean out the division..

[HeroBando]

It doesn't take more than one very good win sometimes. For example, Sergio was like top 5 (?) for a close loss and a huge win vs PWill. Jumped 100+ spots probably. Hell, Segura was recently top 10 p4p

Trout is no PWill, but Canelo is not top 5 either. But top 30 is ok, top 50 for sure.

[Public_Enemy]

He's definitely top 50. You have Leo Santa Cruz on there and you said Canelo hasn't fought good competition. And Leo's one of my favorite rising stars but you can't be serious. You don't have 50 names up there either.