Comments Thread For: Canelo's Trainer Explains Mayweather Catch-Weight Deal

[Vasyl’s dad]

the fight is at 152.............and anyone who knows about business (who has a job and a life off of boxingscene.com) would know that negotiation doesn't work like that. you don't just come in and give up your raw number. 147 (team maywather knows golden boy wouldn't accept that) so you keep shooting upwards in till you meet at 152. it's not about the first number you throw out there, it's about how far you move the guy from his original stance that makes you comfortable. (in this case 152)


this is simple negotiating tactics.


you guys have takin this weight thing way too far. to hilarious proportions.........

Why would two 154 pound titlists need to negotiate weight?

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Floyd will likely be 150-152 on fight night. Canelo will balloon up to 160-165 on fight night.

Exactly, Floyd is going in against a bigger man yet some behave as if a clause in a contract is what reality is. On fight night Floyd's going to be fighting a heavier younger man, and a man eager to knock his block off.

The true disparity seems to linger well outside of the obvious for some, they instead perseverate on contracts, pathetic.

[Vasyl’s dad]

Exactly, Floyd is going in against a bigger man yet some behave as if a clause in a contract is what reality is. On fight night Floyd's going to be fighting a heavier younger man, and a man eager to knock his block off.

The true disparity seems to linger well outside of the obvious for some, they instead perseverate on contracts, pathetic.

Wasn't Baldomir 16 pounds heavier? Why not a cw for that fight?

[lopez36]

Exactly, Floyd is going in against a bigger man yet some behave as if a clause in a contract is what reality is. On fight night Floyd's going to be fighting a heavier younger man, and a man eager to knock his block off.

The true disparity seems to linger well outside of the obvious for some, they instead perseverate on contracts, pathetic.

bigger man but will probably be drained that night,theres a reason he asked for the catchweight,even two pounds,thats why he also said cotto was not at his best when he was asked for a catchweight by pac too,,,you can ignore it all you want,it's a catchweight fight requested by Floyd and it will affect canelo in some way,otherwise just fight him at 154,he's still going to gain weight right? but now he'll gain it but those two pounds will affect canelo

[daggum]

Why would two 154 pound titlists need to negotiate weight?

because one of the champs is a giant bi-tch.

[Vasyl’s dad]

because one of the champs is a giant bi-tch.

Or,

[lopez36]

Showtime pressure. Guerrero ppv failed. They weren't going to let him take on someone who didn't really belong in the ring to begin with. They have tons of money riding on him. They want to make some of it back. Remember, his deal is "up to", not guaranteed.

that's why I think he took this fight,pressure from showtime,they are not going to pay him all that money to lose money,,and forbes is reporting showtime lost millions in floyds ppv with guerrero,i believe it too...and they know what canelo has been doing lately with bringing in fans to his fights,they know this is the only way to make money,floyd to me was pressured into taking this fight,i really doubt he wanted it,probably was looking at devon alexander or amir khan

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Wasn't Baldomir 16 pounds heavier? Why not a cw for that fight?

Hmmmm, I wonder if Mayweather was younger then or should the best be expected to be Supermen? Should every fighter face a challenge or should they be granted every advantage imaginable?

bigger man but will probably be drained that night,theres a reason he asked for the catchweight,even two pounds,thats why he also said cotto was not at his best when he was asked for a catchweight by pac too,,,you can ignore it all you want,it's a catchweight fight requested by Floyd and it will affect canelo in some way,otherwise just fight him at 154,he's still going to gain weight right? but now he'll gain it but those two pounds will affect canelo

I think this is an utter fantasy and Canelo thinks so too. They know they'll have the weight advantage and unlike an older body Canelo's will be resilient, because he's the younger guy. He'll rehydrate fine.

[Mayabang]

that's why I think he took this fight,pressure from showtime,they are not going to pay him all that money to lose money,,and forbes is reporting showtime lost millions in floyds ppv with guerrero,i believe it too...and they know what canelo has been doing lately with bringing in fans to his fights,they know this is the only way to make money,floyd to me was pressured into taking this fight,i really doubt he wanted it,probably was looking at devon alexander or amir khan

I think this is the case as well, and it only makes sense. I knew he'd fight Canelo eventually but not this soon. I believe Esquire had an article about this as well.

[Vasyl’s dad]

Hmmmm, I wonder if Mayweather was younger then or should the best be expected to be Supermen? Should every fighter face a challenge or should they be granted every advantage imaginable?



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Floyd is pfp numero uno according to many. So why not just fight the other 154 pound titlist without a cw? Baldomir outweighed him by at least 16. Its what Floyd fans love to brag about. They love to shout out that "size doesn't win fights, skills do".

So, whats the problem? Hopkins never fought a bigger guy with a cw and hes 85.