Comments Thread For: Canelo's Trainer Explains Mayweather Catch-Weight Deal

[Pacquiao'd]

Floyd was the one who said 14 day cutoff with Manny.
Floyd accepted 50/50 deal with Manny

You OK with Floyd taking them off the table.

How can you not see that something like WEIGHT is not going to be on the table forever? Canelo was young and still is young. He can grow in a few years and can't make the weight anymore .... that is a good enough reason .....

Floyd had every right to take it off when PACjuice kept running

[ADP02]

Floyd had every right to take it off when PACjuice kept running

Canelo had every right to take what he said in 2011 off the table ....


As for running, Floyd is better in that department. From vacations to even admitting to his Floyd fans .... "I don't need to fight the best"

Floyd fans like yourself are in denial!

[The Big Dunn]

Yet in the other thread you are saying that Manny has 3 CWs .... does it matter or not?

What makes it even more hypocritical for Floyd and many of his fans is that for years, CWs was evil. Manny was draining due to 2lbs.

Now you say:
- "kinda hard to complain"
- "the bigger earners has ALWAYS negotiated advantages"
- "it seems hypocritical to get mad now that floyd is doing it once he got the top spot."

your points in this post are not coherent. you quoted the post but didn't address any points made. seems like you were just so desperate to respond that you didn't think and the post reflects that.

your problems are you're still upset manny got ktfo and floyd agreed to fight canelo, 2 things you swore wouldn't happen. get over it already.

the 2lbs made a difference in manny v cotto and it will in floyd v canelo. i haven't changed my opinion on that.

if I were you I'd figure out a way to defend manny's ped request for testing after years of you posting ped tests=ducking and fear. cant wait to read how you try and worm your way out your past.

[Thuglife Nelo]

Memory lane!

[Roadblock]

Perhaps the initial part of the discussions which began at 147, then 150, then settled at 152. All below 154 I might add.

If you only knew what goes on the table during negotiations of a superfight, if you knew what initially went in with Manny deals you be horrified.

ALL fighters go in demanding a whole bunch of demands written by the manager, the fighter generally doesnt see the contract until the final deal is cut, if they looking for a CW they ALWAYS go in with a ridiculous CW demand so they can pull them down a little after the haggling, in life you always throw your lowest bid first why would this be any different.

This is how ALL high profile fighters operate thats why its called a negotiation, I can tell you with every Manny CW the weight he asked for was way less than what he got.

You boys have a very strange view of professional sport, this is not a punch up behind the shed.

[Thuglife Nelo]

152 doe and Ellerbe says Plant beats Canelo. Who we funna believe

[Thuglife Nelo]

152 doe! Floyd wanted 150 mayne!

[Amir Imam]

Im not concerned about Canelo's camp and yes im well aware they agreed to the fight otherwise there wouldn't be a fight dumbass. My criticism is that Floyd fan's are hypocrites because all they ever did was scream bloody murder about pac's cathweight fights and now they want to act like it's "just two pounds". The other thing I have beef with is that Floyd always finds a way to weasel his way to an advantage in the fight. Never seems to be able to fight anyone on even terms. They either lost the fight before like Judah, or they are carlos baldomir who ******, they are an old Oscar, a 140 pound Hatton, a lightweight JMM, Shane Oldsley, B- Ortiz, Old Cotto, B- Guerrero, and now Alvarez at a catchweight. Will the man ever fight a prime worldclass fighter at their correct weight? Ever?

Liar

Fights Lost
Pacquiao 7
Mayweather 0

Draws

Pacquiao 2
Mayweather 0

Catchweights

Pacquiao 4
Algieri, Marq, Cotto, Margarito

Mayweather 2
Canelo, Marquez

Titles Lost on Scales
Pac 1
May 0

Times Knocked Out or TKO

Pac 3
May 0

KO %
Pac 54.9
Floyd 54

Opponents Fought 2 or more times

Pacquiao 4
Bradley Barrera Morales Marquez
12 Fights

Mayweather 2
Maidana, Castillo
4 Fights

Vacant Titles Fought For

Pacquiao 8
4-2 in those fights

Mayweather 2
2-0 in those fights

Notable Undefeated Fighters Beat

Pacquiao 3
Algieri, Bradley, Thurman,

Mayweather 3
Corrales, Hatton, Canelo

Olympic Medals

Pacquiao 0

Mayweather 1 (Bronze)


Notable Opponents coming off a loss or being KO

Pacquiao: Morales, Barrera2, Clottey, Mosley (L/D), Rios, Broner, Larios, Margarito(?)

Mayweather: Judah, Corley

Championship Fights Against Similar Opponents

Oscar 34yrs 154lbs W
Cotto 30yrs 154lbs W
Hatton 29yrs 147lbs KO
Mosley 38yrs 147lbs W

Oscar 35yrs 147lbs TKO
Cotto 27yrs 147lbs KO
Hatton 31yrs 140lbs KO
Mosley 39yrs 147lbs W


Opponents with 30+ KOs

Mayweather 12
MM MP Cotto Canelo Hatton ODLH ShaneM Sharmba Gatti Ndou Castillo Marquez
12-0 4KO

Pacquiao 8
Hatton Marquez ODLH SM LM Barrera Morales
10-1-2 5KO

[fighter1234]

Number of times caught taking illegal IV:

Pacquiao: 0

Mayweather: 1

[Pantera_]

Liar

Fights Lost
Pacquiao 7
Mayweather 0

Draws

Pacquiao 2
Mayweather 0

Catchweights

Pacquiao 4
Algieri, Marq, Cotto, Margarito

Mayweather 2
Canelo, Marquez

Titles Lost on Scales
Pac 1
May 0

Times Knocked Out or TKO

Pac 3
May 0

KO %
Pac 54.9
Floyd 54

Opponents Fought 2 or more times

Pacquiao 4
Bradley Barrera Morales Marquez
12 Fights

Mayweather 2
Maidana, Castillo
4 Fights

Vacant Titles Fought For

Pacquiao 8
4-2 in those fights

Mayweather 2
2-0 in those fights

Notable Undefeated Fighters Beat

Pacquiao 3
Algieri, Bradley, Thurman,

Mayweather 3
Corrales, Hatton, Canelo

Olympic Medals

Pacquiao 0

Mayweather 1 (Bronze)


Notable Opponents coming off a loss or being KO

Pacquiao: Morales, Barrera2, Clottey, Mosley (L/D), Rios, Broner, Larios, Margarito(?)

Mayweather: Judah, Corley

Championship Fights Against Similar Opponents

Oscar 34yrs 154lbs W
Cotto 30yrs 154lbs W
Hatton 29yrs 147lbs KO
Mosley 38yrs 147lbs W

Oscar 35yrs 147lbs TKO
Cotto 27yrs 147lbs KO
Hatton 31yrs 140lbs KO
Mosley 39yrs 147lbs W


Opponents with 30+ KOs

Mayweather 12
MM MP Cotto Canelo Hatton ODLH ShaneM Sharmba Gatti Ndou Castillo Marquez
12-0 4KO

Pacquiao 8
Hatton Marquez ODLH SM LM Barrera Morales
10-1-2 5KO

Number of times caught taking illegal IV:

Pacquiao: 0

Mayweather: 1