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  • #21
    The biggest issue that immediately concerns Hunter is Canelo' stamina. In Canelo's last fight, against Austin Trout, Hunter saw that Canelo was losing steam in the late rounds.
    It wasn't even the late rounds. If you replay the Trout fight, Canelo's breathing was looking poor by the 6th round. In the 7th round, Canelo was best described as lethargic: when he knocked Trout down, he didn't even make an honest effort to follow up and test him, and Trout arguably won the rest of the round.

    What's most amazing about Canelo's stamina in the Trout fight was his punch output. He averaged just ~35 total punches per round, and his average was even slightly lower than that through the first 6 rounds.

    Canelo can't go into the Mayweather fight looking for one shot. He's going to have to cut the ring off, throw combinations and land power shots to Floyd's body. That will require him to be a lot more active (physically and mentally) than he was in the Trout fight. But if he was tired halfway through that fight with such a low punch output and a fighter with less technical skill and movement than Floyd, you have to wonder if Canelo's going to be able to sustain the type of pace his strategy for victory calls for.

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    • #22
      Great assessment by hunter. I think he's right on the money, but I think it will be more about Mayweather's skills being too much for Canelo in this fight. This is basically a fight they are making for money. Anyone that knows anything about boxing knows Canelo is way outclassed in this one.

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      • #23
        Originally posted by BoxingFan82 View Post
        It wasn't even the late rounds. If you replay the Trout fight, Canelo's breathing was looking poor by the 6th round. In the 7th round, Canelo was best described as lethargic: when he knocked Trout down, he didn't even make an honest effort to follow up and test him, and Trout arguably won the rest of the round.

        What's most amazing about Canelo's stamina in the Trout fight was his punch output. He averaged just ~35 total punches per round, and his average was even slightly lower than that through the first 6 rounds.

        Canelo can't go into the Mayweather fight looking for one shot. He's going to have to cut the ring off, throw combinations and land power shots to Floyd's body. That will require him to be a lot more active (physically and mentally) than he was in the Trout fight. But if he was tired halfway through that fight with such a low punch output and a fighter with less technical skill and movement than Floyd, you have to wonder if Canelo's going to be able to sustain the type of pace his strategy for victory calls for.
        Great post right here!

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        • #24
          Originally posted by work the body
          He will fatigue twice as face with all the punches he will miss
          Originally posted by thuggery View Post
          Maybe even 3x as fast considering he'll be drained at a catch weight.
          good points

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          • #25
            Originally posted by BoxingFan82 View Post
            It wasn't even the late rounds. If you replay the Trout fight, Canelo's breathing was looking poor by the 6th round. In the 7th round, Canelo was best described as lethargic: when he knocked Trout down, he didn't even make an honest effort to follow up and test him, and Trout arguably won the rest of the round.

            What's most amazing about Canelo's stamina in the Trout fight was his punch output. He averaged just ~35 total punches per round, and his average was even slightly lower than that through the first 6 rounds.

            Canelo can't go into the Mayweather fight looking for one shot. He's going to have to cut the ring off, throw combinations and land power shots to Floyd's body. That will require him to be a lot more active (physically and mentally) than he was in the Trout fight. But if he was tired halfway through that fight with such a low punch output and a fighter with less technical skill and movement than Floyd, you have to wonder if Canelo's going to be able to sustain the type of pace his strategy for victory calls for.
            Correct ... and the crazy thing about it is that Canelo never did enough to warrant that kind of lethargic/stamina issues. I was telling myself, Canelo has such a low work-rate, how can he be so tired?

            For him to go down to 154 then balloon back up like he did makes you wonder if that had anything to do with it ..... but I have seen him before and he is consistent in that he always fights with a relatively low work-rate ...... but his stamina was crazy bad against Trout.

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            • #26
              the weigh after weighin is 1 thing but IMO,themost important is Alvarez not have thos lapses of concentration he.s had 4 a few rounds where he coasts
              as in a few previous bouts...FM by UD 12...

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              • #27
                The extra two pounds may not look much but right now Floyd has got Canelo distracted and psychologically disturbed in draining those extra pounds. This camp will be about weight loss. I wouldn't even be surprised if he would be caught using diuretics.

                Canelo has to back away once he hits Floyd. Make Floyd come like Trout did. Make 'em feel ****** then crash 'em with that bazooka right hand.

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                • #28
                  Lol at Hunter comparing Canelo to a bulldog with short limbs!

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                  • #29
                    Originally posted by BUNGALOWS View Post
                    Floyd's not the busiest fighter, and I don't think he wants to shoot rights to Canelo's body like he does to a lot of his opponents.

                    I don't think staminas going to be a huge issue in this fight. Floyd doesn't pump out the jab like Trout, and he's not going to be super active, because Canelo can move his head, and has crisp, powerful counters.

                    The more I think about it, the better chance I give Canelo.
                    Agreed, Floyd doesn't fight at a high pace so stamina won't be a big issue for Canelo. Speed and movement will be his biggest problems.

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                    • #30
                      Originally posted by Light_Speed View Post
                      Agreed, Floyd doesn't fight at a high pace so stamina won't be a big issue for Canelo. Speed and movement will be his biggest problems.
                      De ja vu or I literally dreamed this, as I scrolled down I was expecting you to bring up Mayweather's pace, weird weird experience.

                      To comment on this, I think if Canelo shows the same kind of fatigue he did against Trout, then Mayweather's pace may be a bit too overwhelming in the mid rounds. I'm interested in knowing how Canelo's conditioning will hold up, as I do see Floyd landing powerful straight right hands to the mid section.

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