Has Mayweather a more important victory than Rigo over Nonito???

[Marvellous1]

Nonito is a horrible boxer. He KO hunts and is horrible at setting up offense.

While I don't cut into other fighters to make my point, I asked before and will ask again. Lloyd Honeyghan beat Don Curry and James Douglas beat Mike Tyson, both who I consider to be better than Nonito Donaire. What does that mean in relation to Rigondeaux?

Also, does one massive win make a career and does the lack of one, in place of many very good wins, break a career?

[Marvellous1]

Imagine, you guys are saying that Floyd had to leave TR to get a fight going with Oscar BUT Manny fought Oscar ......

Floyd could have fought whoever he wanted. He just didn't want it as much as his fans are pretending that he did.

Come on man. Roach basically spelt it out for everyone. He said oscar was done, "can't pull the trigger anymore", I believe were his words. Just like he told Mosley (pre-Mayweather beatdown) that he was "too good" to face when Mosley first asked to fight Pacquiao.

Both of them have been just as opportunistic as each other. Picking fights and fighters when they have the aces.

[bravestone]

Imagine, you guys are saying that Floyd had to leave TR to get a fight going with Oscar BUT Manny fought Oscar ......

Floyd could have fought whoever he wanted. He just didn't want it as much as his fans are pretending that he did.

Oscar swindled Manny away from Arum though remember the bag of cash ??

[hitman smax]

There is no doubt that Mayweather is a great fighter, but he has refused to be a great fighter. History will hold him in high regard, but his legacy will always be tainted by never ending debates about who he didn't fight.

He may very well never lose. But, in some ways, he's already lost and will almost certainly lose again.

No one truly respects a coward.

[The Big Dunn]

Imagine, you guys are saying that Floyd had to leave TR to get a fight going with Oscar BUT Manny fought Oscar ......

Floyd could have fought whoever he wanted. He just didn't want it as much as his fans are pretending that he did.

When floyd wants to fight someone he does things like give them a 50/50 split and agree to everything they want or he pays 750k to get out of his contract to get a fight.

Manny doesn't refuse ost when he thinks its a fight he can win (rios). Hell agree to ost for jmm5. But he wouldn't against floyd because he didn't want to fight.

He didn't want the 50/50 deal until it was off the table 5 months later. Horrible.

[hitman smax]

The funny thing is, Mayweather probably would have beaten Pacquiao fairly easily, and the same may eventually be said about the fight that may never happen between he and Canelo.

Ironically, in both cases, Mayweather will be perceived as a loser for not meeting the challenge that both deserving fighters issued.

Imagine Ali without Frazier and Foreman. Even worse, imagine had he ducked those fighters or waited until they were past their primes to fight them.

[ADP02]

Oscar swindled Manny away from Arum though remember the bag of cash ??

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manny_Pacquiao

On December 6, 2008, Pacquiao moved up to the welterweight division in order to face the six-division world champion Oscar De La Hoya at the MGM Grand, in a fight called "The Dream Match." Presented by Golden Boy Promotions and Top Rank

[ADP02]

Come on man. Roach basically spelt it out for everyone. He said oscar was done, "can't pull the trigger anymore", I believe were his words. Just like he told Mosley (pre-Mayweather beatdown) that he was "too good" to face when Mosley first asked to fight Pacquiao.

Both of them have been just as opportunistic as each other. Picking fights and fighters when they have the aces.

The whole interview was different than you stated. Roach was apprehensive at first but due to Oscar being more promoter less boxer and being that he was Oscar's coach, he realized that Oscar had slipped. Roach was trainer for Oscar when he fought Floyd.

So as I have stated many times, I agree that Oscar was NOT the same Oscar when he fought them two, Manny and Floyd. The difference is Floyd fans can't handle the TRUTH!!!

I said the same about Mosley ..... AGAIN The difference is Floyd fans can't handle the TRUTH!!!

We said that Cotto was not the same Cotto in 2012 after all those wars and losses compared to 2007/2008 .... BUT Floyd said, "Cotto was undefeated" The difference is Floyd fans can't handle the TRUTH!!!

[Almondsand]

Nope, Corrales is Floyd's greatest win, but Donaire was TOP 5 P4P fighter, undefeated for 10 years and was (and still is) considered as one of the most dangerous fighters in the game. Rigo totally outclassed him and that was his 12 fight as a pro...
Floyd is not even close

I wouldn't say Corrales was Floyd greatest win but that win is comparable to the measurability of Rigondeaux win over Donaire. The sad thing is Floyd win was not only close but also at that point in his career was even greater. Corrales was Top 5 P4P universally, knocking out everybody in two weight classes, and undefeated. Rigondeaux master class was brilliant against Donaire but he did get knocked down right on his ass in the 10th round, and didn't stop Donaire after that but he did abused him as I said he would. Donaire in my opinion was never as his hype suggested, so what Rigondeaux did to him wasn't in the least surprising. Mayweather masterclass against Corrales was absolute **** in route to a TKO, to Corrales dismay but it was the right call after being knocked down the fifth time. Also Mayweather have never been knocked down on his ass, and have better skills in the inside game and when his legs are in trouble. Donaire is dookie compared to Corrales..

[ADP02]

When floyd wants to fight someone he does things like give them a 50/50 split and agree to everything they want or he pays 750k to get out of his contract to get a fight.

Manny doesn't refuse ost when he thinks its a fight he can win (rios). Hell agree to ost for jmm5. But he wouldn't against floyd because he didn't want to fight.

He didn't want the 50/50 deal until it was off the table 5 months later. Horriblke.n

Big Gullible Dunn ...

Floyd didn't want 50/50 back then and they didn't want the fight. The testing card took a life of its own so he kept that "I want all PPV money" card in his back pocket until it was time to use it 2+ years later.

Once Manny agreed to Floyd's rule for testing, Floyd did as expected and put a new roadblock. Do you ever ask yourself this question, why did Floyd wait until Manny agreed to testing for that new roadblock? Why didn't he state this before then?

As for testing, you got it all wrong. Manny was willing to do more than was required by the commission rules. He just didn't agree (bend over backwards) on the cutoff dates requested by Floyd who ACCUSED Manny of PEDs. Again, once Manny agreed to MORE than what was asked by Floyd, Floyd moved on to some other roadblock.

Floyd didn't want the fight. His father said he shouldn't fight Manny. Team Floyd NEVER was interested.

Remember this statement by Floyd even after Manny agrees to testing "How can a guy go from 106 to 147/150 and walk thru them big guys ..... it has never been done before, come on man"

For many of those years Manny was either #1 or #2 in boxing. You would have to be gullible to believe that Manny deserved no PPV money. Most understood what that line meant (ie. I don't want to fight Manny) but some of the FLoyd fans took that excuse and went with it while the rest of us said, "You seriously believe Manny should get 0 PPV money?"


YOU SAID "When floyd wants to fight someone he does things like give them a 50/50 split and agree to everything they want or he pays 750k to get out of his contract to get a fight."

If you read what you said yourself, Floyd didn't do what you said except when the Testing roadblock was present. After, he no longer had that excuse and said no to 50/50 ...... So going by your own words FLOYD DIDN'T WANT TO FIGHT!!! The offer to Manny was one that most would expect Manny to disagree. After he gives a piece of the money to Arum/Roach/Ariza .... Manny in his biggest money making fight would be close to making what he made against Marquez ....