Has Mayweather a more important victory than Rigo over Nonito???

[Grimgash]

Not the odds to be against him or ducking but lets say there are 3 fighters one has 40% chance of beating him the other 30% and the other 20% he always goes for the 20% guy >always< he never picked a guy that you thought oh **** that's gonna be a fight Corrales maybe? shiett i don't even remember that fight anymore. You're saying that he's so awesome that there's never been one fighter that fit that description that got side stepped? i beg to differ.

It is true there hasn't been many but over the years guys names have come up that at the time that would have made for a good fight, regardless if Mayweather was a favorite or not and all we can do is speculate now because we never actually saw those fights (with the exception of a 5 year past due Cotto fight) . And remember this is measuring in a single fight basis (not the career) is obvious Floyd's career is Rigo's times 5 right now but as a one single most defining victory Floyd never had one such as Rigondeaux just did.

Floyd was like a 3-1 underdog in Corrales. Most thought he'd lose. Rigo Donaire was 2-1? Also Corrales is vastly superior to donaire in terms of resume and skill, and before the fight no on questioned his ability to fight, nor after. He also didn't look lost or confused in the fight either, just out classed. Floyd-Corrales is a far superior win than Rigo-Donaire.... it's almost exact same on paper and in the ring Mayweather handled the fight 100x better than rigo did to donaire.

[ADP02]

but why would manny need cut offs then, but not now?

- Cut offs? Floyd did as well. Did you mind?
- Floyd wasn't doing true OST. Did you mind?
- Floyd kept on pedaling back and taking cutoffs off the table, 50/50 off the table. Did you mind?


Then? You know that Manny accepted testing with Floyd too? yes even without them cut-offs. You should have been happy about Manny giving in but question why Floyd put new roadblocks but you didn't. WHY???

[Marvellous1]

- Cut offs? Floyd did as well. Did you mind?
- Floyd wasn't doing true OST. Did you mind?
- Floyd kept on pedaling back and taking cutoffs off the table, 50/50 off the table. Did you mind?


Then? You know that Manny accepted testing with Floyd too? yes even without them cut-offs. You should have been happy about Manny giving in but question why Floyd put new roadblocks but you didn't. WHY???

Once again you're letting your Pacquiao spit bucket instincts lead you down an oh so familiar road. This isn't about Pacquiao and who's fault a non-fight is. This is about Rigondeaux having something Mayweather does't, a massive win. That in itself is debateable. But looking deeper, I've asked what significance such a win has in comparison to a career such as his. Many fighters have had such a win but not nearly so great career. Rigondeaux is a fantastic boxer with a win over Donaire. Honeyghan had a big win over Curry. What's the relevance in comparison to Rigondeaux?

[Goldie]

- Cut offs? Floyd did as well. Did you mind?
- Floyd wasn't doing true OST. Did you mind?
- Floyd kept on pedaling back and taking cutoffs off the table, 50/50 off the table. Did you mind?


Then? You know that Manny accepted testing with Floyd too? yes even without them cut-offs. You should have been happy about Manny giving in but question why Floyd put new roadblocks but you didn't. WHY???

Arum and Pacquiao never agreed to anything regarding testing, it was all posturing for the media. They never had any intention of making the fight. It should be obvious by now.

[Grimgash]

Arum and Pacquiao never agreed to anything regarding testing, it was all posturing for the media. They never had any intention of making the fight. It should be obvious by now.

I like how no one remembers that any time testing was put on paper to sign, Arum and Pac never signed it. Only when they said it in media.

[Marvellous1]

Not the odds to be against him or ducking but lets say there are 3 fighters one has 40% chance of beating him the other 30% and the other 20% he always goes for the 20% guy >always< he never picked a guy that you thought oh **** that's gonna be a fight Corrales maybe? shiett i don't even remember that fight anymore. You're saying that he's so awesome that there's never been one fighter that fit that description that got side stepped? i beg to differ.

It is true there hasn't been many but over the years guys names have come up that at the time that would have made for a good fight, regardless if Mayweather was a favorite or not and all we can do is speculate now because we never actually saw those fights (with the exception of a 5 year past due Coytto fight) . And remember this is measuring in a single fight basis (not the career) is obvious Floyd's career is Rigo's times 5 right now but as a one single most defining victory Floyd never had one such as Rigondeaux just did.

Your last statement is my point. Measuring two different fighters on the basis of a single fight is a bit of a nonsense. Would you measure Ricky Hatton (with a win over Tzsyu) or Hasim Rahman (with a win over Lewis) against Mayweather too?

Rigondeaux may go on to even better things. Good luck to him if he does. But I repeat, what is the point being made exactly? Surely it isn't a debate that a great career eclipses ione massive win and one massive win doesn't ensure a great career.

[Roja's480]

i like reading threads like this cuz there is always someone who tries to discredit Floyd and when presented with fact's they just ignore it and continue bashing him.

like the poster who keeps saying Floyd fans don't want to hear the truth and when they present him with the truth he ignores it. but i picture this poster looking like this when they show him the facts

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[Frank Ducketts]

Goldie, Grim...I commend the both of you. You know how to have fun wasting time with pathetic posters and their alts.