Mayweather Sr Speaks on Matthysses win over Peterson

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  • Tom Cruise
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    #71
    Originally posted by DempseyRollin
    he has good skills. but without his power, hed be nothing special. im pretty sure most would agree with that. his power is his defining attribute. hes not fast, doesnt have a good jab, isnt overly hard to hit or accurate. hes a good pressure fighter, which is hard to find nowadays, but his pressure definitely comes from his power. he will have success as long as hes able to make ppl feel his power. will it work at 147? i dunno.
    I think its very hard to assess how he would do without his power because he fights to his strengths. He showed me enough in the Judah and Alexander fights to say he has decent skills... good timing, excellent punch selection, judges distance well, parries shots well (for an offensive fighter) etc These are all skills. Some act as if you need the philly shell to have skills nowadays.

    He could struggle against the best at 147 though. He only weighed in at 150lbs for this fight (according to other posters i havent chacked that), and is only 5"6. 140 is his perfect weight imo, but he will more than hold his own if he moves up i can promise you that.

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    • WesleySnipes
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      #72
      the only people badmouthing here are the one who didnt see the video that just came here for trolling cause everything he says was right...and for a May Sr. to say that something a current fighter did was "impressive" is like seeing a Unicorn so that really means something.

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      • .:: JSFD26 ::.
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        #73
        Originally posted by BUNGALOWS
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        Originally Posted by brickcityboxing

        You are highly overrating his skills he is a big puncher who is able to close the distance on people because once they feel his power they don't throw with enough authority to keep him off. Defensive wizard he is not.

        No one's calling him the second coming of Sweet Pea. LOL.
        Go check the poll on the master thread and you will see why brickcity is mad.

        Doesn't matter what you say, he will a find around it.


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        • .:: JSFD26 ::.
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          #74
          Originally posted by brickcityboxing
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          Originally Posted by BUNGALOWS

          The flaw in Sr's critic is, he's looking at the fight through the eyes of defense first, counter punching trainer. He's not seeing that fight through the eyes of an attack first, defensive responsible fighter like Matthysse. Setting traps, throwing in certain spots, missing or not, to get Peterson to another spot. Also, whether he missed or not, means nothing. He's never in a position to get countered. Peterson bends his knees too much, so Lucas knew he was going to get to him eventually. Lucas knew what he was doing in there, and could read what type of fighter Peterson was from the 1st round.

          Matthysse played his game brilliantly.

          What lol ? This is getting out of hand.
          My guess is by defensively responsible he meant that he's not like Rios who has ZERO regards for defense.


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          • .:: JSFD26 ::.
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            #75
            Originally posted by MurkaMan
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            Originally Posted by BUNGALOWS

            Watch that fight again. Tell me one time in the 1st round where Lucas was in threat to get countered. Lucas could read from the opening bell, what type of fight Peterson was trying to play. He didn't let Peterson set his feet one time, and knew Peterson's stance wasn't showing him any signs of being countered.

            Everytime Matthysse misses, what does Peterson do? He moves out the way and resets. He didn't plant his feet one time. He's even moving and throwing the jabs, instead of stepping in with them. Clear signs of someone that just wants to get out of round 1 with a lead on the scorecards.

            If you were Matthysse, you'd be throwing all the shots you wanted to.

            P.S. Lucas knew that Peterson felt his power in the 1st round with the big hooks he landed towards the end of the round, so he started his attack in the 2nd. Step by step, Lucas knew what he was doing in there, and he executed his game to perfection.

            Lucas aint kno shiet, quit makin up stories. He was on his way to gettin ooutboxed, when Peterson leaned into him and started making it a dog fight. Peterson always does that and Lucas can easily get outboxed. What happened, happened.
            PEDerson leaned on him cause he was still hurt from the KD and he knew he wasnt outboxing Matthysse. So he went back to what he does best and that's inside fighting but he obviously couldn't beat Lucas at that either.

            We all said it, anything PEDerson does Lucas does better. And we're saying the same thing about Garcia. Anything Garcia does Lucas does better.


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              #76
              Originally posted by brickcityboxing
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              Originally Posted by BUNGALOWS

              Exactly this. I wasn't saying he looked like a defensive master in there, just that he's not some walking punching bag, like a lot of people like to believe.

              Ajose was tripling up on hooks to the head and body and landing ! he did it multiple times in their fight when they were on the inside I get that you're not saying he's a defensive wizard and ill concede he is not a walking punching bag (rios type) but he does not have good/great defense he's not mike tyson. The guy has scary power and can box in spurts ... That's it.
              Once it turns into a brawl Lucas don't give no ****. Once he's on the inside with you he knows he's got you. However, he's defendively responsible while work his way in and breaking you down.

              If you look at someone like Rios he just walks you down taking flush shots and then applies his pressure and breaks you down.


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              • Rip Chudd
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                #77
                Originally posted by ROSS CALIFORNIA
                He gave him credit, he's just not d*ck riding. He was very realistic in his assessment.
                On this site you're considered a hater if you're not **** riding

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                • check hook
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                  #78
                  I'm confused. Did he not say what everyone already thinks. He gave him props for stopping a solid guy in 3, he said his power was elite, but his boxing skills aren't. He also said it would be a good fight for Floyd to take.....fairly obvious if you ask me.

                  Who here actually disagrees with that assessment?

                  I suspect half the posters actually didn't watch the vid.

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                  • Tom Cruise
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                    #79
                    Originally posted by check hook
                    I'm confused. Did he not say what everyone already thinks. He gave him props for stopping a solid guy in 3, he said his power was elite, but his boxing skills aren't. He also said it would be a good fight for Floyd to take.....fairly obvious if you ask me.

                    Who here actually disagrees with that assessment?

                    I suspect half the posters actually didn't watch the vid.
                    Cant speak for everyone but i posted earlier saying i disagreed with posters saying he only had power and no skill, not with what Floyd sr was saying... that his boxing skills arent elite. Which is a fair assessment.

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                    • Deevel916
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                      #80
                      I think Floyd sr's assessment was spot on. Lucas had great power but is not a skillful technician.

                      Last person I recall floyd Sr being in awe about was Pacquiao!
                      Last edited by Deevel916; 05-22-2013, 09:11 AM.

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