If you could reform boxing, how would you do it?

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  • GeneralZod
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    #21
    Originally posted by AntonTheMeh
    no weight divisions. no belts. tag teaming is allowed if the two smaller fighters weigh as much as the bigger guy. the winner gets to bone the losers wife, wives, or girlfriend.
    there's a boxing commission in Utah?

    and for some reason i picture Hopkins and Jones Jr football kicking Valuev on the ground.
    Last edited by GeneralZod; 05-21-2013, 09:20 PM.

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    • Lorily
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      #22
      Originally posted by *CHAMPNAS*
      I would eliminate all the fans who call every fighter who holds a world champion a ducker. They can't fight every ducking fighter. I would also get rid of all the fans who call fighters runners. Them idiots don't know **** about boxing
      If you did that, there would be no "fans" left to watch the sport.

      Originally posted by Freedom.
      I'd have 2 sanctioning organizations instead of 5 (merge WBC and IBF, and merge WBA, IBO, and WBO).

      I'd have 10 weight divisions instead of 17. Something like this:

      Flyweight 110
      Bantamweight 120
      Featherweight 130
      Lightweight 140
      Welterweight 150
      Light middleweight 160
      Middleweight 170
      Light Heavyweight 180
      Heavyweight 200
      Super Heavyweight +200

      (I'd rename cruiserweight "heavyweight" and rename heavyweight super-heavyweight).

      And I'd have same-day weigh-ins.
      Pretty much in line with this here ^^^^

      Only with more empasis on the weight issues. Go back to same day weigh ins, AND add a rehydration clause of no more than 10lbs by fight time. There's weight divisions for a reason, fight in the right ****ING division for your body ffs! It's beyond ridiculous to see the majority of the fighters in this sport rehydrating 15-20 overnight. I think it could also help eliminate some of the fighters using banned substances (esp. diaretics) because it would make it virtually impossible for them to fight inside a weight class that their bodies cant accomidate anyway.

      And also (and I know this one has about as much of a chance of happening as me winning the lottery, but) make blood testing mandatory for every championship fight - no matter what the level of competition or status of the fighters is. They don't have to go all out with WADA or VADA or whatever, just 3 mandatory draws - one at 30 days before the fight, one 5 days before the fight, and one directly after the fight. And guess what? It should come out of the pockets of these greedy ass promoters who are already getting 33% of the fighters wages. They loooooooooooooovee the IDEA of testing when another fighter cheats against one of their fighters, but when you start talking about making it mandatory for ALL championship fights, then suddenly it's "I'm not in the drug business." Again, it wouldn't be that exspensive for a total of 3 draws per fight. The promoters can just use the money that they're already stealing from the fighter who is doing all the heavy lifting, and then the fighter still has to pay his team out of the 67% that's left (and then pays taxes on that 67% as well). Could you imagine having a job where at the end of each day you had to give your boss 33% of your wages, just because he let you work there?? (used in sarcasm, but you get the point - no?)

      Also, do away with 10/10 rounds and 10/8 rounds without a knock down. Obviously one of the biggest and hardest issues to clean up would be the judging. As long as there is greed and bias in the world, and deaf dumb and blind are still allowed to judge professional fights - there's always going to be a problem that most certainly can affect the entire sport, and it's integrity.

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      • Ringlife
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        #23
        I would only have one King in each weight division and there would be no draws they would have to fight a 13th round. If one of the judges robbed a fighter of a victory that judge would have to pay fees and would get suspended from judging fights with no pay. So call it like most people see it or get fired. These fighters work to damn hard for these judges to be robbing these fighters without no punishments.

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        • brickcityboxing
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          #24
          Originally posted by Freedom.
          I'd have 2 sanctioning organizations instead of 5 (merge WBC and IBF, and merge WBA, IBO, and WBO).

          I'd have 10 weight divisions instead of 17. Something like this:

          Flyweight 110
          Bantamweight 120
          Featherweight 130
          Lightweight 140
          Welterweight 150
          Light middleweight 160
          Middleweight 170
          Light Heavyweight 180
          Heavyweight 200
          Super Heavyweight +200

          (I'd rename cruiserweight "heavyweight" and rename heavyweight super-heavyweight).

          And I'd have same-day weigh-ins.
          I'd probably tweak the super heavy division and make it 220-230 +. It still doesn't stop guys who from outweighing guys by 30 pounds and having a couple inches on them, both height and reach.

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          • brickcityboxing
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            #25
            Originally posted by Ringlife
            I would only have one King in each weight division and there would be no draws they would have to fight a 13th round. If one of the judges robbed a fighter of a victory that judge would have to pay fees and would get suspended from judging fights with no pay. So call it like most people see it or get fired. These fighters work to damn hard for these judges to be robbing these fighters without no punishments.
            Winner winner chicken dinner ! I've always thought of that as the best way to do it. How long does it take to tally the scores it simple math ? If the fight is even after 12 ... One final round and judges can't score said round even. I don't even know how they landed on 12 rounds to begin with if they wanted to go down from 15 the logical choice would've been 13 or 11 but whatever.

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            • Daddy T
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              #26
              One world wide sanctioning body with 1 set of rankings, one belt per division etc. Minimium of 1 defense per year versus number 1 contender. Exceptions to this in the rare event of say the cruiserweight champ challenging the heavyweight champ, though by rights such things shouldn't require exceptions and could just be voluntary defenses.

              So you have 1 title holder.

              And a number 1 contender

              And then the next six in a super six style competition(could be turned into a 'super 8' so you then have the whole top ten accounted for) to determine the next number one contender. ... If it was super six it would work like this:

              Top guy in this comp becomes new number 1. Previous number 1/former champ slips down into this for next years comp. 3 guys come up (replace bottom three who slip int a similiar comp for ranks 10-20) two guys remain (guys who came second and third in the comp (increased to four guys if 'super eight')

              (Could also be adjust to a 'super four' if the above results in too many fights ... though imo a whole bunch of quality top ten fights appeals to me.)

              Same day way in.

              Uniform and extensive doping tests

              13 round title fights

              No titles can be lost/won at a catchweight

              Less weight classes ... u know instead of light welter, welter and super welter .... just light welter and welter TOPS and maybe even just welter?


              And a MASSIVE NO to the people asking for a 'super heavyweight division' which is a pants idea. We need fewer weight divisions not more with like 8 or 9 guys in em. The whole idea of a super heavyweight division is pointless anyway as you can fight in the top division no matter what you weigh so all it would be is simply renaming heavyweight to super heavyweight and wtf is the point in that. I think people these days have let the Klits blind them ... they are only two guys ... after them how many of the top guys are super heavyweights and how many are 'normal heavyweights' like say Povetkin? Who doesn't think say haye or Povetkin would beat any and all of these super heavys baring the klits themselves?
              Last edited by Daddy T; 05-22-2013, 03:58 AM.

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              • sunny31
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                #27
                I would have two belts per division rather than 4 sanctioning bodies. Why not one? I think two is a good compromise as it still allows more scope for fighters to earn. Plus if a fighter is through no fault of his own injured and needs time off, I think he should be allowed without being stripped or putting the whole division on hold. Plus it still allows unification fights and these would be quicker and easier to make, eg. If two fighters are holding their sanctioning body strap for a period of 12 months (most likely 2-3 defences) then they should be forced to unify. Once a title has been unified you also get the effect of having one champion, and if he is not active enough, the likely result is he would be stripped of one of the straps, but not both so still retaining his world title status. If he chooses to relinquish then again the same result, but it gives the next two highest ranked guys a shot for that sanctioning body title. You would just get a quicker turnover and it would force fighters to take the biggest challenges out there.

                That is the main change I would make, it would be easier for casual fans to follow, whilst still allowing

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                • DeepSleep
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                  #28
                  One belt, one organization, anything else is complete non-sense. Anything else defeats the point of a champion...

                  Basically structure it like the UFC with one organization controlling the fights. No catchweights, standardized drug testing, add two judges to make it 5 judges per fight.

                  No ****bags like Arum, Haymon, King, etc making **** fights that no one wants.

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                  • Nagabilly
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by DD09
                    I love the sport but think it's clearly disorganized and messed up. Between the fighters, promoters, networks, useless belts, transparent weight classes, doping agencies, etc more and more factors come into play from preventing fights.

                    To make matters worse, us, the fans instead of doing something about it seem to cheerlead for whatever fighter, promoter, etc instead of doing anything about it. I understand people don't give a **** to take action but then why complain or point fingers?

                    So for the intelligent ones on the site, how would you reform boxing? In a perfect world that is. We all know too much money and corruption is behind the sport but if we could change it..

                    I'll start..and i'm not saying my solution is the best one by any means..

                    -One Boxing League or Association, one ranking system as it is in Tennis or Golf. (I don't follow either, but obviously it works) (Prevents Cherrypicking)
                    -Obviously divided between the weight classes
                    -One doping agency
                    -Cities and networks bid to host fights
                    -Events have multiple class headliners
                    -Promoters, trainers, fighters, etc have their own teams as in MMA or Racing. For example Team Top Rank, Money Team, Team Roach, Team Redbull whatever the case is. Obviously fighters within teams still fight each other.
                    -You have to be affiliated with a Team to fight
                    -Restrictions on moving up or down in weight classes. (Prevent cherry picking)

                    Just curious as to what your ideas are..
                    I don't follow MMA can you please explain this "team" system?

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                    • wazaa.
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                      #30
                      I would only change one thing and one thing only: Make all the professionals wear headgear


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