How ****** does PAC look turning down 40 mill now?

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  • maguirre
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    #71
    People are getting dumber and dumber. Whole world knows the zero PPV offer was a duck move. If Pac said yes, Mr Floyd would have come up with another duck move. 50 cent attested to this. He was around when Floyd was making the insulting offer on the phone to Pac. 50 cent said the $40 million would come from his pocket in case Pac accepted. Mr Money didn't even have that kind of money ready to be transferred.

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    • flat1985
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      #72
      Originally posted by Big Dunn
      SPecious argument because floyd sold the fight-not ODH. floyd would be selling this one too-not manny.

      I agree manny is a huge draw-but we should also agree he is NEVER seeing $40 mil.

      It may not be fair to manny, but it wasn't fair to floyd either. If he wants the big payday he will do what is necessary.
      Why would Pac take 40 mil when the fight could generate 4 times that? They no how big it would of been Mayweather and Oscar didnt know it was gonna do that big of a number.

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      • Cardinal Buck
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        #73
        pipty pipty

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        • flat1985
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          #74
          That is last thing i say on this as well as i dont give a **** what they earn tbh.

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          • The Big Dunn
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            #75
            Originally posted by HeroBando
            Not Floyd's fault Pac would have to surrender some 27% to Arum, lets say. That's why they need to start with a more reasonable upfront split, like 55/45 or 53/47 or something, none of this flat fee crap. Even under 50/50, Floyd walks away with a lot more.
            your asking that floyd split to help offset manny's bad deal. will never happen. and you'd never ask any other fighter to do same.

            I agree the flat fee sucks for manny, and poster Natas broke down how bad a deal it would be.

            But if manny wins-he'd almost surely be making a guarantee that exceeds what floyd gets now.

            If the rumors of his money problems are true-then maybe manny did make a mistake.

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              #76
              Originally posted by flat1985
              Why would Pac take 40 mil when the fight could generate 4 times that? They no how big it would of been Mayweather and Oscar didnt know it was gonna do that big of a number.
              you nor I know excatly how many ppv's will be sold. odh/floyd exceeded expectations and odh benefitted far more. if manny and floyd exceeds expectations-floyd will get more because of the way his deal is structured-same as ODH did.

              You make more than you ever did, but not as much as the other guy and if you win you stay at that level.

              If the rumors of his money problems are true-then maybe manny did make a mistake. if they are false-manny made the right move.

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                #77
                Originally posted by Cgarcia
                People are getting dumber and dumber. Whole world knows the zero PPV offer was a duck move. If Pac said yes, Mr Floyd would have come up with another duck move. 50 cent attested to this. He was around when Floyd was making the insulting offer on the phone to Pac. 50 cent said the $40 million would come from his pocket in case Pac accepted. Mr Money didn't even have that kind of money ready to be transferred.
                the same 50 who couldn't pay gamboa's opponent the upfront money he promised. yeah, right.

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                • Russian Crushin
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                  #78
                  C'mon PAC would basically be making what he always made, while Floyd would be taking in probably at least 2X that. Who cares if it would be his highest pay day ever, when he deserved more, it was a ripe off

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                  • HeroBando
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                    #79
                    Originally posted by Big Dunn
                    your asking that floyd split to help offset manny's bad deal. will never happen. and you'd never ask any other fighter to do same.

                    I agree the flat fee sucks for manny, and poster Natas broke down how bad a deal it would be.

                    But if manny wins-he'd almost surely be making a guarantee that exceeds what floyd gets now.

                    If the rumors of his money problems are true-then maybe manny did make a mistake.
                    No I'm actually saying go with the fair deal. Floyd might be happy to know he'd be walking away with more than it seems on paper, but he'd also be welcome to advertise the fact.

                    If Pac is having money problems, those 3m extra he'd get from Floyd would be a drop in the bucket. What would help is making his rightful share in the biggest fight that can be made, even now probably. But really, he's still making buckets, just needs to be more responsible. A good first step is not taking laughable deals like that 40m. Pac is not the brightest guy around, but that shows a hint of intelligence.

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                    • Cardinal Buck
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                      #80
                      Originally posted by HeroBando
                      He wouldn't make 40m, that was for him to split with TR. It'd be more like 29m, a 12% raise or so. So yea, of course Floyd would make more than 2x.
                      Where are you getting the 12% number from? Isn't it already established that Pac normal purses get heavily cut into to begin with.

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