Which of these euros should join the IBHOF?

[Russian Crushin]

Only vlad...

[BattlingNelson]

I'm somewhat surprised that Froch leads Kessler in this poll. Kessler has been fighting at championship level pretty much since Froch turned pro and he even holds a win over him.

Bias much?

[LacedUp]

I'm somewhat surprised that Froch leads Kessler in this poll. Kessler has been fighting at championship level pretty much since Froch turned pro and he even holds a win over him.

Bias much?

When Kessler wins on Saturday, there shall be no doubt as to who's the best. But I agree, Kessler has achieved more world titles and also unified some titles at a couple of stages in his career. But Froch has that epic streak of fights that puts him up there as well.

[BattlingNelson]

When Kessler wins on Saturday, there shall be no doubt as to who's the best. But I agree, Kessler has achieved more world titles and also unified some titles at a couple of stages in his career. But Froch has that epic streak of fights that puts him up there as well.

It's not a knock on Froch per se, but he does not have a better resume than Kessler. Saying so is bias or ignorance.

[crold1]

Below are the names of some ageing europeans and their records in world title fights (WBC, WBA, IBF and WBO).

Please vote wheter these guys should be in the IBHOF if their careers was to end now.


Wlad Klitschko: 21-2
Vitali Klitschko: 15-2
Carl Froch: 7-2
Mikkel Kessler: 10-2
Arthur Abraham: 13-4
Felix Sturm: 14-3-2

The Klitschkos are the only ones who I would say should for now They have been the literal two best in the world for most of a decade. Froch and Kessler may make cases, but they are still really in the thick of things. I'd feel more comfortable evaluating them when I think they are really past it and we can contextualize them.

Not saying the Klits are past it; they are just different and the Hall LOVES Heavies.

No on Sturm and Abraham. Both are LIGHT on quality wins.

[crold1]

It's not a knock on Froch per se, but he does not have a better resume than Kessler. Saying so is bias or ignorance.

Depends on what you favor in a resume. If it's just titles, Kessler has an edge. If its quality of opposition, Froch is miles ahead and barely losing to Kessler on the road doesn't hurt much considering his W/L during this sick 9 of 10 fight stretch. I think, even as someone who favors Carl to win this weekend, Kessler is being wildly slept on. If Kessler wins on Carl's floor, that is a brick on his side.

[Ryn0]

All bar Abe and Sturm

[Sugar Adam Ali]

Below are the names of some ageing europeans and their records in world title fights (WBC, WBA, IBF and WBO).

Please vote wheter these guys should be in the IBHOF if their careers was to end now.


Wlad Klitschko: 21-2
Vitali Klitschko: 15-2
Carl Froch: 7-2
Mikkel Kessler: 10-2
Arthur Abraham: 13-4
Felix Sturm: 14-3-2

Bumped this,, good topic

I think first ballot- wlad, vitali, froch

2nd or 3rd ballot Kessler and sturm

Abraham needs to finish strong to get in IMO

[daggum]

so i checked vitali's resume...still complete garbage so no he doesn't get in. maybe next year it will change?

[Sugar Adam Ali]

so i checked vitali's resume...still complete garbage so no he doesn't get in. maybe next year it will change?

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