Pacquiao would KO the poorly-conditioned version of Marquez that faced Mayweather?

[Evol]

Exactly Manny had 2 tries to stop Marquez even before Memo came along and Manny couldn't get the job done. Marquez' resiliency is being underrated here. Based on our evidence the answer is NO

And Marquez couldn't stop PAC either until memo came along...

[duwdu]

I didn't compare who they both fought to see who is better. No matter what you post you know floyd is better. Anyone manny fights whether it be jmm, bradley, rios, alvarado etc would be seen as a cherrypick for floyd. You and other posters have actually written that rios is a dangerous fight for manny. Is there any jww or ww that you feel is dangerous for floyd? No.

Right now floyd would have to fight a mw champ to be less than a 2-1 favorite. That speaks volumes. You are entitled to your opinion as am I. But the evidence is clear.

If manny handled the ped thing in 09 like he did with the rios fight there would be no discussion. The only people who question whose better are diehard manny fans like yourself because you've ridden with him so long and so hard your pride won't allow you to admit it.

Floyd simply works harder on his craft and it shows.

Great post. Thanks. P34c3

[bravestone]

And Marquez couldn't stop PAC either until memo came along...

Not sure what that has to do with marquez' toughness but ok

[Evol]

Not sure what that has to do with marquez' toughness but ok

It was a response to what u said that manny wasn't able to stop Marquez even before memo came along. Well if u wanna look at it like that Marquez also had more than one opportunity to stop manny and he couldn't hell he couldn't even put manny down once until memo came along....

[duwdu]

I didn't compare who they both fought to see who is better. No matter what you post you know floyd is better. Anyone manny fights whether it be jmm, bradley, rios, alvarado etc would be seen as a cherrypick for floyd. You and other posters have actually written that rios is a dangerous fight for manny. Is there any jww or ww that you feel is dangerous for floyd? No.

Right now floyd would have to fight a mw champ to be less than a 2-1 favorite. That speaks volumes. You are entitled to your opinion as am I. But the evidence is clear.

If manny handled the ped thing in 09 like he did with the rios fight there would be no discussion. The only people who question whose better are diehard manny fans like yourself because you've ridden with him so long and so hard your pride won't allow you to admit it.

Floyd simply works harder on his craft and it shows.

Great post, thanks.

P34c3

[big_james10]

Marquez stepped up two weight divisions to face Mayweather, without easing himself into the weight. At the time it was thought that because Mayweather had been out of action for a while it might be an equalizer but the truth is Mayweather showed up in close to top form while Marquez showed up in poor physical condition to face the p4p #1 fighter.

The fight was also supposed to be at a catchweight but Mayweather didn't make weight.

If that poorly conditioned, sluggish version of Marquez showed up to fight Manny Pacquiao in any of their fights would he have been knocked out by Pacquiao?

Maybe Pac should demand a clause in the contract for their next fight that states that Marquez cannot train for the fight within 30 days of the fight and must inform Pac of the days that he does train, just as he insisted on knowing the days that he would be drug tested by Mayweather and refused to take a test within 30 days of the fight. That way, Pac could easily avenge his knockout loss.

[duwdu]

Maybe Pac should demand a clause in the contract for their next fight that states that Marquez cannot train for the fight within 30 days of the fight and must inform Pac of the days that he does train, just as he insisted on knowing the days that he would be drug tested by Mayweather and refused to take a test within 30 days of the fight. That way, Pac could easily avenge his knockout loss.

LOL, that's an appropriate response, and also properly sarcastic.

But, seriously, I wouldn't know what it is with these die-hard Pacquiao apologists such as the OP. Their shoulda, coulda, woulda line of self denial, makes them seem like imbeciles, or of way self-overrated intelligence, or both. It's truly a pity one has to deal with these effectively 14-year olds on forums.

I end up having to hold myself from having to dislike their idol on account of them. Hmm.

P34c3

[RichardP]

*******, face it he got KOED, theres no senarios in the world that can change it. it happened already.

[bravestone]

It was a response to what u said that manny wasn't able to stop Marquez even before memo came along. Well if u wanna look at it like that Marquez also had more than one opportunity to stop manny and he couldn't hell he couldn't even put manny down once until memo came along....

You should re-read the post I was responding to.

[The Gambler1981]

Exactly Manny had 2 tries to stop Marquez even before Memo came along and Manny couldn't get the job done. Marquez' resiliency is being underrated here. Based on our evidence the answer is NO

JMM has never been stopped, that is a fact and it is not like he has fought a whole bunch of stiffs either. Sure he has been dropped and has got tagged but he always gets up and always seems to get hit less clean as a fight goes on while hitting the other guy more.


If someone want to talk about Manny winning against that version OK sure, I would say it would follow the normal plot of their fights but at least that makes some sense. Saying a guy that has never been stopped is going to get knocked out makes no sense, especially since we have seen the movie many times.