Floyd ducks but Canelo isn't?

[Weebler I]

I exaggerated a little with Canelo fighting Ward, but that was based on his weight. Theoretically he could fight at SMW. But practically he's MW and I don't give a shiet that boxers do that all the time. People talk now how Floyd's ducking Canelo, blah blah blah, picture him as the bad guy while Canelo is a saint. Bull*****, If Canelo has balls, he needs to fight guys of his own size, at his natural weight class.

It seems you don't believe in the validity of weight divisions in boxing.

So what do you say to Wlad who outweighed Haye by 30lbs on fight night?

My position on Mayweather is that if isn't prepared to fight at 154 then he should tell everyone Canelo's too big, vacate his 154lb belt move down to 147lbs and never darken the door of the JMW division again.

[Szef]

It seems you don't believe in the validity of weight divisions in boxing.

So what do you say to Wlad who outweighed Haye by 30lbs on fight night?

My position on Mayweather is that if isn't prepared to fight at 154 then he should tell everyone Canelo's too big, vacate his 154lb belt move down to 147lbs and never darken the door of the JMW division again.

I say nothing considering HW has no weight limit

[jvsnypes]

So now the Floyd fans are using Andre Ward as Floyd's savior now?? They did it with Martinez, now they're doing it with Canelo wow.

Now the argument is that Canelo who campaigns at 154 should go to 168, (2) weight classes above anywhere he's ever competed because a Floyd fan feels that the 2 time jr middleweight champ should be allowed to duck a real jr middleweight??

Trout is the only top 5 154lber that Canelo has fought. Why does he deserve a fight with Floyd???

[marvin douglas]

Floyd is the only fighter who is accused of cherry picking and ducking the same fighter. He ducks the fighter until the fight is signed and then it's a cherry pick.

[jvsnypes]

It seems you don't believe in the validity of weight divisions in boxing.

So what do you say to Wlad who outweighed Haye by 30lbs on fight night?

My position on Mayweather is that if isn't prepared to fight at 154 then he should tell everyone Canelo's too big, vacate his 154lb belt move down to 147lbs and never darken the door of the JMW division again.

Darken the door??? Canelo is the WBC Jr MW champion. How many top contenders has he defended it against. He's calling out Floyd, for what??? Shouldn't he be pressured to fight Cotto, Angulo, Lara, and Kirkland??? I don't see him beating any of them except Angulo. Why does he get a pass???

[tokon]

because they can both cut weight down to 154.

you act like this is something new.

true.

weight "cutting" is common practice is all weight category combat sports that benefit from day before weigh-ins. how much weight the fighter cuts, or how well they perform after cutting is highly individual.

floyd chooses not to cut. that's his choice. however, whilst mayweather is a "natural" welter he is definitely not a light-middle in comparision to canelo, trout etc who routinely rehydrate at least 15lbs before fight-time. not saying he should not fight canelo just pointing out the difference in size!

same-day weighs are probably not feasible given the amount of money invested in a big-fight promotion; what happens if a fighter fails to make the weight and his opponent, who has made weight, elects not to go ahead with the fight at a weight disadvantage? This, more than the "fighter safety" aspects, is why weigh-ins are day before imo.

[strikefury]

Yeah I did know that. So now please tell me why the **** they fought at junior middleweight? They should fight at SMW, plain and simple. Just bring back same day weigh in that would clean all that mess

Thats what ive been saying for the longest and posters here accusing me of being a Mayweather fan for saying it to justify his "duck" of Canelo. I aint no Mayweather fan but he does have a belt at 154; He gotta step up and fight this dude.

[tokon]

I'm certain MWs enter the ring at around that weight, it's now fashionable to call Canelo a SMW for some odd reason, or ask that he face Ward.

For anyone that's willing to answer, how much longer does anyone think Canelo will be able to make 154 healthy? Is it possible that his decent stamina at this point in time is due to having to make '54?

btw this is proabably why alvarez is in such a hurry to get mayweather next. pretty soon he will outgrow 154 and no way will - or should mayweather go to 160.

[Weebler I]

I say nothing considering HW has no weight limit

But you've already shown you don't believe in the official weight class system anyway, from your comments it's about what you think is 'fair' on fight night. By that logic surely it is less fair to Haye (30lbs lighter) than it would be to Mayweather (20lbs lighter)? I don't agree, just playing devil's advocate.

I think one has to accept the system as it is.

[flint]

did you know trout was 171?

i'm sure he did know that. but his point is that alvarez should be fighting middleweights instead of welterweights.alvarez is young enough to make 154 although he kills himself to do it. he needs to stop ducking GGG who has called him and chavez jr out.