Comments Thread For: Wladimir Klitschko: It is So Difficult To Be This Boring!

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  • Gojira
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    #21
    The fact that he carries his opponents when he could easily KO them alot earlier doesn't help his case.

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    • LacedUp
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      #22
      Originally posted by The Weebler II
      I don't have an issue with him being boring, my concern is consecutive opposition like Pianeta and Wach. What a waste of time for a boxer of his talents.
      That's my main issue as well.

      A lot of fighters are/were boring, but at least fought top opposition. Wlad used to fight the best, but he hasn't been doing that lately.

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        #23
        All I have to say is Wlad is the most underrated HW in history and quite possibly the most underrated fighter of all time. Had he been born an American we would've made him a huge star and found opponents to build up for him. I think you drop him in any era including the 80's and 90's and he would be a force.

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          #24
          Originally posted by BabyFaceAssasin
          All I have to say is Wlad is the most underrated HW in history and quite possibly the most underrated fighter of all time. Had he been born an American we would've made him a huge star and found opponents to build up for him. I think you drop him in any era including the 80's and 90's and he would be a force.


          i agree that if he and his brother were american and young that they would be huge stars. two brothers who hold the HW championship together? they speak six languages, have phd's, are aspiring political leaders? you can't make up stories like that.

          they would be HUGE stars. huge.

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            #25
            Originally posted by BabyFaceAssasin
            All I have to say is Wlad is the most underrated HW in history and quite possibly the most underrated fighter of all time. Had he been born an American we would've made him a huge star and found opponents to build up for him. I think you drop him in any era including the 80's and 90's and he would be a force.
            You may be right about the 80's and 90's but he isn't seen enough anymore in the US. when he was-he was getting beat by below average fighters. Thats when he was exciting. Then he gets on for the Haye fight and both of them put on a putrid display.

            He changed his style to increase his chances of winning but I think that hurt him with US viewers.

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              #26
              Originally posted by New England
              i agree that if he and his brother were american and young that they would be huge stars. two brothers who hold the HW championship together? they speak six languages, have phd's, are aspiring political leaders? you can't make up stories like that.

              they would be HUGE stars. huge.
              Couldn't disagree with you more. AMerican audiences don't usually warm up to any sports star with a background like that. WHen was the last time those qualities were embraced in any sport?

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                #27
                Originally posted by BabyFaceAssasin
                All I have to say is Wlad is the most underrated HW in history and quite possibly the most underrated fighter of all time. Had he been born an American we would've made him a huge star and found opponents to build up for him. I think you drop him in any era including the 80's and 90's and he would be a force.
                Oh really!?! I don't think anyone actually doubted that, he would be in the top 10 atleast in any era. But I don't agree with your if he was American propaganda. Either you sell fights by being exciting or through your mouth, if not no matter how good you are, you won't get the viewers attention. A good example of this is Larry Holmes.

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by Big Dunn
                  You may be right about the 80's and 90's but he isn't seen enough anymore in the US. when he was-he was getting beat by below average fighters. Thats when he was exciting. Then he gets on for the Haye fight and both of them put on a putrid display.

                  He changed his style to increase his chances of winning but I think that hurt him with US viewers.


                  oscar wasn't always hugely exciting fighter when he was a ppv star. the trinidad fight wasn't great and people still bought his fights. same with jones, who was never really a crossover star to begin with. mayweather is booed in almost every fight at some point, and people always call his fights boring. it's a main topic of discussion of mainstream / casual fans after almost every fight


                  ppv sales, and true superstardom, go beyond the ring. oscar was damn good looking, and the ladies loves him. he had a mexican american backing to boot. floyd is a polarizing figure. people love him and others hate him. both buy ppv. he's a compelling figure.

                  wladimir could have his style and still be a star in the states, IMO. he would need the proper backing, and he would have to start young and be american. it would be a bit of a novelty, but he and his brother are joint HW champion. that's a story that would sell.

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by Big Dunn
                    Couldn't disagree with you more. AMerican audiences don't usually warm up to any sports star with a background like that. WHen was the last time those qualities were embraced in any sport?


                    when was the last time two brothers were joint HW champion? that's the rub. they're brothers. that's a story that everybody can relate to.

                    remember the harbaugh bowl?

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by New England
                      oscar wasn't always hugely exciting fighter when he was a ppv star. the trinidad fight wasn't great and people still bought his fights. same with jones, who was never really a crossover star to begin with. mayweather is booed in almost every fight at some point, and people always call his fights boring. it's a main topic of discussion of mainstream / casual fans after almost every fight


                      ppv sales, and true superstardom, go beyond the ring. oscar was damn good looking, and the ladies loves him. he had a mexican american backing to boot. floyd is a polarizing figure. people love him and others hate him. both buy ppv. he's a compelling figure.

                      wladimir could have his style and still be a star in the states, IMO. he would need the proper backing, and he would have to start young and be american. it would be a bit of a novelty, but he and his brother are joint HW champion. that's a story that would sell.
                      when we discuss the US audience-you know that is mainstream, small town USA. Those fans, regardless of sport, have NEVER warmed to an intellectual sports star, let alone in boxing.

                      ODH was THE story coming out of the olympics at a time when the olympics was big on network TV. Floyd we agree. But they were both polarizing in theiir own way. They made people FEEL a certain way. niether klit elicits feelings.

                      while I agree their story is unique-the things you listed have never been been the things mainstream US sports fans tend to gravitate towards.

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