Canelo Doesn't Need Floyd: Floyd needs him!!!

[HeroBando]

Taking alot of heat for this thread but all im saying is that canelo doesnt have to meet floyd at 147 of a catchweight

If you were Canelo's manager, WOULD YOU TAKE THE DEAL AT 147 OR 150.

if yes than you would be a horrible manager.

Make floyd come to you at 154.

Yes Floyd going to do a million plus no matter but the huge money is doing 1.5 or higher.

Im just taking the perspective of Canelo's handlers.

Floyd on the other hand is smart to try and bring Canelo down.
If im Canelo i dont go down.
Actually if Im canelo, I try and fight Cotto for easy money and then maybe pop up and take out and old serg for middleweight belt next Cinco de Mayo 2014

You're totally right man. SHO Boxing is going under unless they get Floyd in with Canelo asap, i don't think they can even last until the 6th fight. The pressure will be immense to get it made.

And Canelo, well he got huge before ever fighting his first legit opponent in Trout. He's like DLH, he doesn't need another superstar to boost him like Floyd and Pac did. Not that it wouldn't help.

[Outwest Exp 355]

The way i see it is Canelo doesn't need FLoyd as much as Floyd needs him.

Yes, Floyd is still going to get paid$$$ regardless of who he fights. But Showtime is going to want to maximize ppv buys and so will the ppv providers.

Floyd is running out of options of fights that can bring 1.5 mil and up.

Ortiz rematch, khan, Garcia etc will all do close to a 1 mil buys but none will come close to making as much money as a canelo fight would.

If im canelo, i have no pressure on me to agree to all of Floyd's demands like a catchweight.
If im canelo and his management i would wait floyd out and let him fight other guys that dont bring the money canelo can.
Nobody expects canelo to do 1 mil buys by himself on his own ppv.
but him and floyd together and your looking at 1.5 and up, possibly 2 mil if the hype train really builds it.

Nobbody is going to blame Canelo if he chooses not to fight floyd a a catchweight.
If im canelo i sit back and fight the angulo, kirkland, cotto, etc.

Eventually Floyd will run out of big money options to fight and be forced to "retire" or fight Canelo at 154..

The heat is already on Floyd to fight canelo. If Floiyd offers to fight at 154- fine, canelo accepts and the fight is on.
If floyd tries to dictate terms in weight at 150 or 147, If im canelo i say shove it and go find 1.5 mil buys with Alexander lol

Just my opinion and i love the business side of boxing. If im Canelo i dont accept anything that isnt at 154

Calm down guy. Let the negotiations play out. And Ginger does need Floyd. He can make more on the B side with Floyd than he can being on the A-side against Cotto or anyone else for that matter. Especially going up against Bradley vs Marquez. Fighting Floyd forces Top Rank to move their entire card to another date.

[DLT]

Floyd's deal is guaranteed. He could fight a club fighter for 10,000 ppv's and they still have to pay him 32mil

[HeroBando]

Floyd's deal is guaranteed. He could fight a club fighter for 10,000 ppv's and they still have to pay him 32mil

He could, if he wants to ruin SHO and GBP. Won't even take a bum, they're headed that way unless they can get him in with Canelo somehow, and soon

[Meanrighthook29]

Taking alot of heat for this thread but all im saying is that canelo doesnt have to meet floyd at 147 of a catchweight

If you were Canelo's manager, WOULD YOU TAKE THE DEAL AT 147 OR 150.

if yes than you would be a horrible manager.

Make floyd come to you at 154.

Yes Floyd going to do a million plus no matter but the huge money is doing 1.5 or higher.

Im just taking the perspective of Canelo's handlers.

Floyd on the other hand is smart to try and bring Canelo down.
If im Canelo i dont go down.
Actually if Im canelo, I try and fight Cotto for easy money and then maybe pop up and take out and old serg for middleweight belt next Cinco de Mayo 2014

Look I want to see this fight just as much as the next man, and yes I'd like it to be at 154 as well but you and every other person who hates Floyd are just going off what Canelos manager said. He fought a week ago, can we wait to see what he has to say first.

[al-Xander]

Showtime wants Canelo next. It's obvious.
But what can they do if Floyd doesn't want it?

[Batman8]

thread title sounds absurd initially.

but you gotta remember this.

can floyd really going through another fiasco like the pac one with alvarez? where fight the fans wants doesn't happen...AGAIN?

he wont get the benefit of doubt this time (well, apart from his garbage fans ofc)

[DLT]

He could, if he wants to ruin SHO and GBP. Won't even take a bum, they're headed that way unless they can get him in with Canelo somehow, and soon

U didn't say Sho or GBP. U said Floyd needs Canelo. He doesn't.

Also, people are being too dramatic about the deal. If Floyd does a mil then they are fine. They don't even have to make money on Floyd. It's more about changing the culture. Bringing Floyd in makes Showtime bigger than HBO.

Then they can start making money with Canelo, Broner, etc...

It's still more than worth it to get the big names on Showtime. The budget will then also become bigger. Floyd is there for nearly 3 years and most likely the others are too.

It's a process but by 3 years Showtime will have shifted the balance. That's what they care about

[Batman8]

U didn't say Sho or GBP. U said Floyd needs Canelo. He doesn't.

Also, people are being too dramatic about the deal. If Floyd does a mil then they are fine. They don't even have to make money on Floyd. It's more about changing the culture. Bringing Floyd in makes Showtime bigger than HBO.

Then they can start making money with Canelo, Broner, etc...

It's still more than worth it to get the big names on Showtime. The budget will then also become bigger. Floyd is there for nearly 3 years and most likely the others are too.

It's a process but by 3 years Showtime will have shifted the balance. That's what they care about

this deal is gonna bring showtime to its knees. this is not a sustainable model, especially as floyd is done in 5 fights. and in that time, things are not gonna shift from hbo to showtime. do you think the ghost fight made a dent in that regard in any way?

i dont blame floyd, he got an amazing deal.

but espinosa and golden boy are gonna ruin showtime. its painfully inevitable how this is going to play out.

oh well at least floyd rides off into the sunset with his $250m.

[The Gambler1981]

Aside from it being the biggest fight to be made for both of them, they really don't need each other.

Floyd has his deal going and will be just fine whatever he does and Canelo is well on his way also a fight with Floyd could help him blow up but there are other ways to make that happen Floyd just happens to be the quickest way there.

They only need each other if they want to make that money together, if they don't they will both make a lot of money elsewhere.