Ricky Burns vs Jose Gonzalez + Undercard (round by round discussion)

[Doctor_Tenma]

What was with Burns tonight though? He showed zero head movement, zero lateral movement all night. He was bolt upright. Stiff as a board.

Great display of heart and a hell of a chin on Burns but my did he have a lucky escape.

Looked possessed by the power of Khan.

[Dr Rumack]

What was with Burns tonight though? He showed zero head movement, zero lateral movement all night. He was bolt upright. Stiff as a board.

Great display of heart and a hell of a chin on Burns but my did he have a lucky escape.

Agree with all of that. I was very surprised by how he responded to what Gonzalez was offering. He was just walking into the firing line with his gloves up and getting countered when he threw himself.

He did grind it out against an opponent who was battering him, and I don't want to deny him credit for that. But how much of it had to do with Burn's wearing him out, and how much of it had to do with Gonzalez not having the conditioning? Looked like the latter was a much bigger factor to me.

[The Hammer]

Ricky Burns has the heart and the mindset of a champion.

Gonzalez has long arms and he's well-schooled, but sometimes that's not enough.

In round 7, Gonzalez ran into the stone wall of Ricky Burns determination to win, and couldn't get through it.

[kiaba360]

Agree with all of that. I was very surprised by how he responded to what Gonzalez was offering. He was just walking into the firing line with his gloves up and getting countered when he threw himself.

He did grind it out against an opponent who was battering him, and I don't want to deny him credit for that. But how much of it had to do with Burn's wearing him out, and how much of it had to do with Gonzalez not having the conditioning? Looked like the latter was a much bigger factor to me.

Wish I could pass some green K. Chelo let an injury defeat him, which is considered a sin in boxing. However, I definitely want to see him again and I'm hoping he can come back stronger and smarter.

[Cuban Linx]

In the end its another big blow for Puerto Rican boxing...

Chelo had a big opportunity to resurrect PR boxing with a huge upset win. Chelo really gave up at the end.

I genuinely do feel bad for PR boxing. It's never looked this bad before.

[Weebler I]

He could have won those last three if he had fought on with his right hand. He was so superior to his opponent that he could have pulled it off.

He was done I think. After the 7th he pretty much stopped throwing and started running. He would likely have lost the next 3, I couldn't pinpoint anything he was doing that would have won him rounds.

[bravestone]

Props to Burns. Why are we discounting him? He was the one who hung in and fought it out. Not his fault Chelo doesnt have his heart and was about to be stopped.

You can have everything going for yourself but with no heart you aren't a champion.

[Dr Rumack]

Props to Burns. Why are we discounting him? He was the one who hung in and fought it out. Not his fault Chelo doesnt have his heart and was about to be stopped.

He was being so badly out-boxed in the first half of the fight that you'd have to criticise him. It would be ridiculous not to. Really and truly he only put Gonzalez under serious pressure in the 7th and he still lost that round.

He won because that round was enough to wear Gonzalez out, and against your typical world class opponent that wouldn't have been anywhere near enough. He gets credit for getting a win on the night, he loses credit for what overall was a case of his opponent losing the fight more than him stepping up and winning it.

[Thad.Castle]

O boy what a day 2 robberies and a quitter

[Weebler I]

Agree with all of that. I was very surprised by how he responded to what Gonzalez was offering. He was just walking into the firing line with his gloves up and getting countered when he threw himself.

He did grind it out against an opponent who was battering him, and I don't want to deny him credit for that. But how much of it had to do with Burn's wearing him out, and how much of it had to do with Gonzalez not having the conditioning? Looked like the latter was a much bigger factor to me.

Conditioning played a part but I don't think it was just solely conditioning, in the tear-up Burns also hurt Gonzalez with a punch. In the 8th he was retreating like someone who didn't want to take any more punches (see Cotto v Pacquiao).

I think Gonzalez's reach was unusual, Burns was putting in a lot of work but couldn't get close enough to his opponent to land consistently. Not all opponents have long arms, styles do make fights.

Chelo looked very talented, I'm sure he will be back.

R.1 - Burns (close)
R.2 - Gonzalez
R.3 - Gonzalez
R.4 - Gonzalez (close)
R.5 - Gonzalez
R.6 - Gonzalez
R.7 - Gonzalez
R.8 - Burns
R.9 - Burns