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Originally posted by elpistolero92 View PostThe thing about Floyd is despite him being practically a living legend, you just wanna see him pushed in a classic fight where he has to step up and deliver an ATG performance but right now no one can touch him so he easily out thinks his opponents, he doesn't have to really dig deep down to pull out a spectacular win against these guys, Maybe Pac or perhaps Canelo could be that kind of fight but with Floyd's ring IQ I doubt it.Last edited by pwned; 05-05-2013, 05:54 PM.
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Originally posted by retnuocllup View Postno point in making pac/cherrypicker now... pac's chin is cracked... you don't come back from KTFOs like that... see Pwill and especially RJJ
RJJ never had a great chin, but never got hit very much till his reflexes went. It wasn't his chin that failed him vs Johnson, he took more punches in that fight than he'd taken in years. He was on the way to losing a decision, that's how far he'd fallen very fast.
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Originally posted by pwned View PostSo how does make anything I said wrong? You can look at everything you said and it does not address nullify anything I mentioned.
* You write, "Manny also said he wanted to prove once and for all that he was the better fighter and the 4th fight was the last".
Its great that you can take a quote out of context, but does that change the fact that it took 4 tries to pass the pacquiao test? Serious question. You are trying to illustrate that Pacquiao holds the 4th fight as a final verdict. I am saying that 1 out of 4 does not make you better. If you want to hold that quote as a final verdict on how to measure, feel free to be selective on quotes to hold as measuring sstandards, but regardless of your quote, let us not suspend logic and math and say 1 victory out of 4 is major accomplishment. Make sense?
* "Manny knocked Marquez down 5 times in 4 fights and couldn't finish him. Marquez done him off with one punch in the 4th fight. "
Yeah he "done him off with one punch in the 4th fight. On one hand you are magnifying the greatness of Marquez to do it in one punch but at the same time the fact about the "4th fight" is still in there which has been point all along. So you still don't accomplish anything with your reply. I mean who the hell gets 4 tries to figure another fighter out. Finally he did it. I'm happy for him as well. lol
* "Manny even said he underestimated JMM in the 3rd fight and threatened Pinoys to say he won or else they weren't real Pinoys. All of this is documented. "
Again more noise, that does nothing to actually make anything I said wrong. It is only in the mind of a pacquiao hater that there is this widespread memo that every pinoy got a hold of to squash there opinions of a marquez victory in order to keep their iden******. The possibility of them seeing a close fight in the 3rd fight (where pacquiao got a split W is not existant) it is only based on this widespread threat that everyone heard and paid attention to. Do you really hear what you are saying?
My points still hold.
"We underestimated Marquez," [IMG]http://i67.***********.com/albums/h315/GRUSTLER/manny-pacquiao-v-juan-manuel-20111112-220641-371.jpg[/IMG]
"I've been fighting at 150, 147 and then this guy [who is] 140-pounds, 135, is moving up. I've been fighting with bigger guys and then I fight a guy who is the same size, so I kind of understimated [him]." Manny Pacquiao.
Article Link - http://www.boxingscene.com/?m=show&o...#ixzz1x0RrRW82
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"I don't know. It's hard to imagine a fifth one," Pacquiao said."This is the last fight with Manny," Marquez said. "I don't know what will happen in the ring, but this is the last time.""It's the last time. We're going to knock him out," Roach said. "End of story."
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Originally posted by Big Dunn View PostManny only made the 4th fight because he couldn't get a catch weight with cotto
Cool.. Point being? Does this make anything I said wrong?
Typical pacquiao hater. In there mind it is more commendable to be in a weight division for over 4 years and challenge smaller guys bloating upwards like floyd does. You want to illustrate that pacquiao is somehow lesser because he won't move up to JR. Welterweight. Its essentially saying shame on pacquiao for not moving up. But not saying shame on Cotto for not going down then attempting to make a point out of it. No cries of Floyd doing wrong by not fighting Ward or Martinez by going up in weight, but shame on Pacquiao for not going up in weight. Typical pacquiao hater.
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at 147 or 140, there isn't a fighter than can really push Floyd other than Manny. At 154 I think Canelo vs. Floyd would be a great fight. Honestly though, outside of Canelo and Manny who can win more than 2 or 3 rounds against Floyd?
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Originally posted by GRUSTLER View PostWhat point? You ain't make jack squat. Mayweather is technically more sound than Marquez to say other wise is not accurate. I notice posters on here see what they want to see.
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Originally posted by HeroBando View PostYou just knocked over some strawman, I'm not gonna bother too much. Of course Floyd is faster than JMM, or course he's also a counterpuncher. But he's not just a bigger better version of JMM, they fight totally different. JMM is an offensive fighter, Floyd is defensive. That's a fundamental difference.
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