Is Wlad Klitschko on a tall, undefeated Fighter crusade?

[Weltschmerz]

Lol at pulling that excuse. Typical nuthuggers

Well it's true and you know it too. Wlad underestimated Sanders slightly and didn't take his power seriously.

Today's Wlad annihilates all hw's in history, except Vitali.

[King_]

Just heard someone call Wlad-Povetkin a super fight. Lol.

Am I missing something or would you guys call it a super fight?

You still haven't responded to my post about Floyd-de la Hoya....even after i requoted it.


Why not?


Typical. The hypocrisy and double standards in regards to Wlad-Floyd are laughable......

[King_]

Lacedup: once again, in response to your silly post on page 5, where "Wlad fans will fill up a stadium" statement..... I ask you....

When did I say Wach, Mormeck and Pianeta were good fighters? Please find that. So Wlad can't stay active against a couple of unknown, undefeated heavyweights and fill out a stadium, but Floyd can fight 15 year pro, 2007 Oscar De La Hoya, fill out a arena in vegas, charge $60 for a PPV, get a split decision and be called ATG afterward? Gotcha.


Look harder. I'm not going to find it for you, I could care less. There was an article posted on boxingscene where Helenius said himself he wasn't ready for Wlad yet, freedom posted a video a couple of days ago about Pulev where he himself said he wanted to defend his EBU title a few times before he fought Wlad, and Povetkin blatantly ducked Wlad for two years after the fight was already supposed to be made.


I'm speaking facts, sorry.

[Joeyzagz]

Well it's true and you know it too. Wlad underestimated Sanders slightly and didn't take his power seriously.

Today's Wlad annihilates all hw's in history, except Vitali.

Wlad loses 10 times out of 10 to Lennox, its a stylistic nightmare.

Wlad would have:

-No height advantage
-No weight advantage
-No speed advantage
-And would be at a Reach Disadvantage

On top of that, Lennox is probably the only fighter in history who can uppercut cleanly through clinches, so grabbing him would be suicidal. Seriously, Wlad would have to totally change his character to even have a shot at beating Lennox. He would need to abandon that whole robotic style and take wild shots like Mccall did.

Wlad admits himself he is not very good at 'fighting' like big bro. He wont survive 2 mins of Lennox's dirty inside game and will end up on the floor like Michael Grant.

[Simurgh]

Wlad loses 10 times out of 10 to Lennox, its a stylistic nightmare.

Wlad would have:

-No height advantage
-No weight advantage
-No speed advantage
-And would be at a Reach Disadvantage

On top of that, Lennox is probably the only fighter in history who can uppercut cleanly through clinches, so grabbing him would be suicidal. Seriously, Wlad would have to totally change his character to even have a shot at beating Lennox. He would need to abandon that whole robotic style and take wild shots like Mccall did.


Wlad admits himself he is not very good at 'fighting' like big bro. He wont survive 2 mins of Lennox's dirty inside game and will end up on the floor like Michael Grant.

E. Steward:

“Wlad has the best footwork, co-ordination and balance of any fighter I have ever worked with. He’s the most accurate, single-punch knockout guy I have seen.

“A guy can be completely fine, not hurt, and Wladimir can put his lights out with one shot.

“He is the most powerful natural talent I have worked with. In terms of jab, Wladimir is the best and after him I would put Lennox.

“Lewis was a more versatile fighter but in terms of boxing arsenal, Wladimir is better.”

There you go. Please don't come up with Steward Wlad's trainer bla bla...

It's 50:50 fight.

You can’t tell what would happen because Wladimir has such unbelievable one-punch punching power, unlike anybody I have ever trained. With most fighters you have to get someone hurt a little bit, stagger them, knock them down, and then they finish them. Wladimir could fight, and I saw him do that so much in the gym, even with 20 ounce gloves. Just out of nowhere where nobody has even been hurt, and just the lights go out and guys go to sleep. Just like Eddy Chambers with one grazing punch, Ray Austin, I mean he’s the most devastating one-punch fighter I’ve ever worked with, and you don’t even see his punches. So at no time are you safe with Wladimir. He may be boring sometimes, but anytime with ten, fifteen, five seconds left sometimes—he can knock someone out.

But sometimes he gets so comfortable controlling a fight with just his jab, and it ends up almost like a game. He just settles down and gets in a comfort zone, and it’s hard to get him out of that. Whereas Lennox is a little bit more explosive, he’s maybe not as super talented as Wladimir is, but he would do a variety of things. Sometimes that just meant going out and being really physical, and just losing all of your boxing talent and just go out there and just brawl and tear a guy up, and Lennox knew how to do it. So it would have been, to me having worked with both of them, a very interesting fight. I couldn’t even say exactly who would win. I can tell you the strong points of both fighters and that would be it.

We’d have to sit down and see what would happen, though. Lennox could come out, and being almost as big as Wladimir, could make it a very physical fight. Then Wladimir has a little bit better footwork with his in and out rhythm, and he has that unbelievable short and accurate one-punch punching power that could have gotten Lennox or anybody in trouble, at any point in the fight. It’s one of those fights that I as a fan would love to see myself.

Steward on Lennox's legacy... If you say he praised Wlad (on Lennox's credit) while talked about Lennox's legacy you know nothing about Steward and you're just trolling...

It's all about would Lennox be able to come inside without being tagged. Wlad is a faster fighter, controls the range better and he has more than enough power to KO Lennox. On the other hand if Lennox comes inside he would screw up Wlad... He has far better inside game.

[Szef]

E. Steward:

“Wlad has the best footwork, co-ordination and balance of any fighter I have ever worked with. He’s the most accurate, single-punch knockout guy I have seen.

“A guy can be completely fine, not hurt, and Wladimir can put his lights out with one shot.

“He is the most powerful natural talent I have worked with. In terms of jab, Wladimir is the best and after him I would put Lennox.

“Lewis was a more versatile fighter but in terms of boxing arsenal, Wladimir is better.”

There you go. Please don't come up with Steward Wlad's trainer bla bla...

It's 50:50 fight.

You can’t tell what would happen because Wladimir has such unbelievable one-punch punching power, unlike anybody I have ever trained. With most fighters you have to get someone hurt a little bit, stagger them, knock them down, and then they finish them. Wladimir could fight, and I saw him do that so much in the gym, even with 20 ounce gloves. Just out of nowhere where nobody has even been hurt, and just the lights go out and guys go to sleep. Just like Eddy Chambers with one grazing punch, Ray Austin, I mean he’s the most devastating one-punch fighter I’ve ever worked with, and you don’t even see his punches. So at no time are you safe with Wladimir. He may be boring sometimes, but anytime with ten, fifteen, five seconds left sometimes—he can knock someone out.

But sometimes he gets so comfortable controlling a fight with just his jab, and it ends up almost like a game. He just settles down and gets in a comfort zone, and it’s hard to get him out of that. Whereas Lennox is a little bit more explosive, he’s maybe not as super talented as Wladimir is, but he would do a variety of things. Sometimes that just meant going out and being really physical, and just losing all of your boxing talent and just go out there and just brawl and tear a guy up, and Lennox knew how to do it. So it would have been, to me having worked with both of them, a very interesting fight. I couldn’t even say exactly who would win. I can tell you the strong points of both fighters and that would be it.

We’d have to sit down and see what would happen, though. Lennox could come out, and being almost as big as Wladimir, could make it a very physical fight. Then Wladimir has a little bit better footwork with his in and out rhythm, and he has that unbelievable short and accurate one-punch punching power that could have gotten Lennox or anybody in trouble, at any point in the fight. It’s one of those fights that I as a fan would love to see myself.

Steward on Lennox's legacy... If you say he praised Wlad (on Lennox's credit) while talked about Lennox's legacy you know nothing about Steward and you're just trolling...

It's all about would Lennox be able to come inside without being tagged. Wlad is a faster fighter, controls the range better and he has more than enough power to KO Lennox. On the other hand if Lennox comes inside he would screw up Wlad... He has far better inside game.

Just listen to what Steward said in this video, and that was when he trained Lennox. There goes all those "he said that beacuse he was Wlad's trainer at the time" excuses

[Simurgh]

Just listen to what Steward said in this video, and that was when he trained Lennox. There goes all those "he said that beacuse he was Wlad's trainer at the time" excuses

That straight is beuaty, absolute beauty.

Manny said that he probably never saw better right than Wlad's in history of HW.

[King_]

Wlad loses 10 times out of 10 to Lennox, its a stylistic nightmare.

Wlad would have:

-No height advantage
-No weight advantage
-No speed advantage
-And would be at a Reach Disadvantage

On top of that, Lennox is probably the only fighter in history who can uppercut cleanly through clinches, so grabbing him would be suicidal. Seriously, Wlad would have to totally change his character to even have a shot at beating Lennox. He would need to abandon that whole robotic style and take wild shots like Mccall did.

Wlad admits himself he is not very good at 'fighting' like big bro. He wont survive 2 mins of Lennox's dirty inside game and will end up on the floor like Michael Grant.

Just a flat out ****** post. I won't even respond.



Still waiting on a response from laced up.

[B-Bomber]

Just listen to what Steward said in this video, and that was when he trained Lennox. There goes all those "he said that beacuse he was Wlad's trainer at the time" excuses

I agree, Wladimir would have beeen a tough fight for Lewis. Arguably Wlad has a better jab, which could force Lewis to lead and take some risk. Both are very good in terms of ring generalship. Lewis' main advance could be mental, there is no way to know for sure, but I have the impression that Wlad might crumble if kept out of his comfort zone long enough.

What I disagree with is Wlad dominating every great HW in history. I think of Sonny Liston's jab, power and 'bad intentions. Louis ability to get in trading range with smart footwork and unload quick combinations.

Frazier would be problematic as well, Wlad starts cautious, if smokin' Joe gets on the inside early it'd become a short night. And of course guys like Ali, Tyson, Foreman and Holmes aren't easy work for anybody.

Wlad is good, just not -that- great, in my opinion.

[LacedUp]

Well it's true and you know it too. Wlad underestimated Sanders slightly and didn't take his power seriously.

Today's Wlad annihilates all hw's in history, except Vitali.

1) WTF does it matter if this version of Wlad could have beaten that version of Sanders? The only thing we KNOW is that Wlad got KTFO against Sanders. and that's all that matters.

2) Omg. I don't even know where to begin answering to that ******ity. You base that on what exactly? Beating Pinata? Haha. You're delusional my friend. The difference between Wlad and every other heavvyweight great in history is that they fought top notch competition and beat them comprehensively. This goes all the way back to Johnson, Holmes, Louis, Bear, Schmeling, Braddock, Patterson, Liston, Dempsey, Tunney, Ali, Foreman etc.

Don't get it twisted, the two best fighters Wlad ever fought, Haye & Ibragimov, ended in UD where he stunk the place out for being too passive.

The fact that you would even claim such a thing just varifies one of two things even more. Either you are completely trolling or you don't know **** about boxing. I'm leaning towards the second.

You still haven't responded to my post about Floyd-de la Hoya....even after i requoted it.


Why not?

Dude I didn't reply because doesn't make sense. I'm not even a big Floyd fan for starters, but the guy is an eight time world champion in five different weight classes. He's fought as a world champion for almost 17 years and has beaten every single fighter they put in front of him comprehensively (except for two) which he still won.

Sorry, but I don't see the comparison between the richest fight in boxing history and Wlad-Pianta.

Wlad is a long-time world champion and will of course go down as a legend, no question. But there's heavyweights and then there's all other divisions. The two are almost two different sports.