why do people think pac is an atg

[jaestix1]

he is.....he just ain't greater than floyd, hopkins or marquez.

[littlemac]

A lot of butthurt packlas here.

[Sugar Adam Ali]

Manny is an all time great.

Beat MAB when MAB had just beaten prince naseem and erik morales handing them their first losses.

Fought a prime marquez, when no one else would

People thought morales was too big at 130 for manny. Lost a heated first fight but came back with improved boxing technique and ko'd morales twice.

Destroyed oscar at 147 when he was considered a huge underdog, hatton at 140, destroyed cotto at a catchwieght, beat down margarito and clottey who are both some tough hombres.

Not saying he is greatest ever, but over the last decade nobody has been in more big fights.

mab twice
morales 3 times
marquez 4 times
hatton
ocsar
margarito
cotto
clottey
larios
Bradley

PAc has fought a who's who (except floyd)
him and floyd will be only ATG currently in boxing
DEF AN ATG

[Sugar Adam Ali]

Forgot to mention hopkins, he def a current ATG

Marquez, Cotto are great for their time but not of all-time

[CaneloFan]

Loss to Bradley=****** decision

Loss to Marquez= a guy that took 4 fights to figure him out plus steroid abuse because he wanted to win by any means necessary.

[DuckDodgers]

he is.....he just ain't greater than floyd, hopkins or marquez.

Marquez has been one of my favorite fighters for the last 7-8 years and I think he beat Pac in 3 of the 4 fights. That being said, Manny accomplished far, far more than Juan and was capable of beating some guys that Juan wouldn't have. Juan is an ATG also, but even though he had many's number, Pac has to be considered the greater fighter overall.

[Evol]

sry that was my buddy that made this thread....

Let me guess ur buddy is, revention?

[Bigg Rigg]

ATG fighters have gotten knock the fkk out and are still considered great u fkk in idiots. And your a clown, how can u count the Bradley fight that every one knows he really won but then say Marquez should have gotten W's vs PAC. Can't do both.

[Evol]

A lot of butthurt packlas here.

Yea... U! Hahaha!! Again on a PAC thread.

[Sugar Adam Ali]

Manny's main problem was somebody with a good lead right or counter right.
Morales had a great lead right that he would turn into an uppercut sometimes
Marquez has great counter right
Hatton, Oscar, barrera, margarito, cotto, clottey, hatton. None have very good straight right hands. More of left hookers.
Manny looked awesome vs those types of fighters. Thats why arum kept him from floyd