Poor Zab, if only he trained with Roach

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  • deejd
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    #11
    Originally posted by -BORICUA-
    danny was stunned not that badly hurt. zab was doing the chicken dance.
    This.... Garcia was never in danger of being KO'd, let alone knocked down. He seemed more gassed than hurt. He even admitted to being a little shook up by that uppercut Judah landed when he spun him, but it was fatigue that was doing the job.

    As for the other posters wondering why Judah didn't "finish"; thank goodness Judah, most importantly, had the sense to understand that Garcia wasn't hurt. Could you imagine Judah laying it all on the line in the 10th knowing he didn't actually have him hurt? Garcia would have stopped him in the 11th for sure.

    Kudos to Judah for keeping his composure and focus from round 1 to round 12 and not thinking along the lines of NSB posters.


    Originally posted by -Kev-
    Roach wouldn't have done sh-t

    The best I could see Roach doing is influencing good match making like he did for Khan in 2009 and Pacquiao in 2010-2011. If Roach was Zab's coach we wouldn't have gotten fights like Judah-Paris, Judah-Matthysse, Judah-Garcia.
    Hahaha. True indeed... he'd probably be top five p4p for beating Victor Cayo.

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    • hectari
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      #12
      Originally posted by -Kev-
      Roach wouldn't have done sh-t

      The best I could see Roach doing is influencing good match making like he did for Khan in 2009 and Pacquiao in 2010-2011. If Roach was Zab's coach we wouldn't have gotten fights like Judah-Paris, Judah-Matthysse, Judah-Garcia.


      You pick certain years, what for?

      Why not mention that under Roach Khan fought Maidana, Peterson, and Garcia.

      Get out of here with that crap.

      I'm not a big fan of Roach, but Roach offensive style would fit well with Zab since he is a fighter who fights in explosive bursts.

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      • Weebler I
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        #13
        Originally posted by deanrw
        Danny was hurt. A couple more good punches he would have went down. Fatigue probably played a role, but he was still hurt.
        Yeah he was ready to go, Zab should have jumped on him. I think part of Zab's reluctance was that he was still worried about getting hurt himself having been down a couple of times.

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          #14
          He's young doe

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          • !! Shawn
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            #15
            Originally posted by Russian Crushin
            Zab looked good in just the last 3 round, only because Garcia looked gassed and severely slowed down. People always give Zab some kind of credit for looking good in 25% of a fight and getting beat up the rest of the time.
            He wasn't really getting beat up. He was just not throwing punches, in typical Judah style.

            If he had decided to shoot the straight left down inside Dannys wide slow sloppy looping right hand early, Danny wouldn't have made it out of the fight.

            Can you even imagine of Zab decided to stand his ground and shoot his left uppercut every time Danny threw that sloppy lunging right hand to the body?

            Zab has always had problems being scared to counter, and being short with the jab. But when he finally said **** it and actually started throwing shots, he seriously beat the **** out of Danny.

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              #16
              Originally posted by !! Shawn
              He wasn't really getting beat up. He was just not throwing punches, in typical Judah style.

              If he had decided to shoot the straight left down inside Dannys wide slow sloppy looping right hand early, Danny wouldn't have made it out of the fight.

              Can you even imagine of Zab decided to stand his ground and shoot his left uppercut every time Danny threw that sloppy lunging right hand to the body?

              Zab has always had problems being scared to counter, and being short with the jab. But when he finally said **** it and actually started throwing shots, he seriously beat the **** out of Danny.



              seriously
              alotta that stuff looked easy to counter
              PRIME JUDAH WINS KO

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              • Evol
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                #17
                I don care what anyone says but zab did better than I thought he would lol!! Wobbling at times lol but he survive and fire off some of his own. Danny looks slow, has great power but slowwww.

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                • Jam Jars
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                  #18
                  It's so frustrating watching Judah, even when he has someone hurt and has no chance on the cards, he refuses to go all out to try and get a stoppage.

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by !! Shawn
                    He wasn't really getting beat up. He was just not throwing punches, in typical Judah style.

                    If he had decided to shoot the straight left down inside Dannys wide slow sloppy looping right hand early, Danny wouldn't have made it out of the fight.

                    Can you even imagine of Zab decided to stand his ground and shoot his left uppercut every time Danny threw that sloppy lunging right hand to the body?

                    Zab has always had problems being scared to counter, and being short with the jab. But when he finally said **** it and actually started throwing shots, he seriously beat the **** out of Danny.
                    Of course, because everything looks easier from the outside. It's different when you're actually in the ring. It's not like Garcia was telegraphing every right hand; he switched it up from throwing a looping right hand up top to a straight right, a right hook to the body to a straight right to the body, even wild looping hooks to the body. There were times where he looked at the body and looped it up top. If any of honestly thinks that Zab Judah, of all people, could have stayed in the pocket and picked Garcia apart, you're lying to yourself.

                    Judah even landed clean, crisp left hands in a few of the early rounds that didn't even phase Garcia. He would get stopped if he didn't box the way he did. In some ways, he fought the perfect fight, just needed an extra round or two. He had no choice but to wait til late in this fight because Garcia's punches didn't lose steam until the 9th.

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                      #20
                      It would have been interesting to see Judah under roach lol. Roach's fighters are known to throw flurries coming in and out using their speed to get away from their opponent. Judah to me is quicker and has quicker hands than PAC or atleast he once did but damm imagine that with mannys explosiveness!!

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