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  • #51
    Originally posted by King- View Post
    Everything after round 3 was either a toss up or a clear Murray round.


    Did you even watch the fight? I can't tell if you're trolling.
    Right.

    So if Martinez wins the first three rounds and every toss-up round, he has a strong case for winning providing there were enough toss-up rounds.

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    • #52
      Martinez won rounds: 1,2,3,4,7,11,12

      Murray won rounds: 5,6,8,9,10

      The close/toss up rounds out of that lot are probably the 4th, 5th, and the 9th

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      • #53
        Originally posted by Levity View Post
        What does it matter if those were the only rounds he clearly won?

        If you can make a case that he won 7 rounds or so, whether they were close,lopsided, clear, or unclear, it's not fitting to call this a poor decision.
        Dude Murray CLEARLY won 5,6,8,9,10 and had a knockdown. Just from the rounds he clearly won, he only needed one more round to win. You're gonna sit here and tell me Murray didn't win a Single round from rounds 4, 11 or 12? Those were all toss ups and Mirray could of very well won them all.

        And that's not even mentioning the missed KD, which again, if counted would of gave Murray the win if you give him the rounds he clearly won. And like I said Murray also hurt him with a body shot that was called a low blow, so how is it not fitting to have Sergio winning by 4 rounds a poor decision?

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        • #54
          Originally posted by Own3d View Post
          5,6,7,8,9,10. 4,11,12 were close.
          Martinez won the first three and you think nearly every round thereafter as close.

          What's the problem with the decision than? What's wrong with scoring 4 of those close rounds for Martinez?

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          • #55
            Originally posted by King- View Post
            Dude Murray CLEARLY won 5,6,8,9,10 and had a knockdown. Just from the rounds he clearly won, he only needed one more round to win. You're gonna sit here and tell me Murray didn't win a Single round from rounds 4, 11 or 12? Those were all toss ups and Mirray could of very well won them all.

            And that's not even mentioning the missed KD, which again, if counted would of gave Murray the win if you give him the rounds he clearly won. And like I said Murray also hurt him with a body shot that was called a low blow, so how is it not fitting to have Sergio winning by 4 rounds a poor decision?
            I thought Martinez clearly won 11 and 12, and the 4th was close. I think it's reasonable to score each of those rounds for Martinez, as well as rounds 1-3 and 7.

            The second alleged knockdown wasn't counted, so it wasn't factored into scoring.

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            • #56
              Originally posted by Levity View Post
              Right.

              So if Martinez wins the first three rounds and every toss-up round, he has a strong case for winning providing there were enough toss-up rounds.
              Even if that was the case; he was knocked down twice. So no he doesn't have a strong case....


              The fact that the second KD wasn't called is alone a robbery because had it been called Murray would of won, regardless of what you're saying.

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              • #57
                Originally posted by BafanaBafana View Post
                Martinez won rounds: 1,2,3,4,7,11,12

                Murray won rounds: 5,6,8,9,10

                The close/toss up rounds out of that lot are probably the 4th, 5th, and the 9th
                Rounds 11 and 12 weren't close?


                (**looks at avatar**) okay; that explains it.

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                • #58
                  Originally posted by King- View Post
                  Even if that was the case; he was knocked down twice. So no he doesn't have a strong case....


                  The fact that the second KD wasn't called is alone a robbery because had it been called Murray would of won, regardless of what you're saying.
                  He was ruled down once by the referee. Whether a second knockdown should've been ruled is debatable, but the referee didn't call one and thus it plays no role in scoring.

                  You've stated that Martinez clearly won the first 3 rounds, and that rounds 4, 11, and 12 were close. If that group of rounds and the 7th are given to Martinez, he wins.

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                  • #59
                    lol laughable posts

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                    • #60
                      Originally posted by King- View Post
                      Rounds 11 and 12 weren't close?


                      (**looks at avatar**) okay; that explains it.
                      Murray spent the last minute of the 12th backpedaling, holding, or staying on the ropes doing little. This suggests that he was hurt, and he confirmed after the fight that Martinez caught and hurt him in the round.

                      Since you're emphasizing effective punching, how does Murray win a round in which he was hurt and doing little for roughly a minute?

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