Who won Martinez vs Murray?

[_Gatti_]

Sergio won!

[King_]

I've seen it one time only, and there were close rounds which I didn't mark as usual.

but here were my initial impressions:

Martinez
Martinez
Martinez
Martinez
Murray
Murray
Martinez
Murray (kd)
Murray
Murray
martinez
martinez

Would you at least admit it was close, though?

It was a close fight. Of course. But not all close fights "could have gone either way", nor does it mean one guy couldn't have decisively and clearly won the fight.

[-Kev-]

I thought he won rounds 4-6 clearly. Lederman like always has some influence on the way people would view those rounds though.I just remember thinking if Lederman has the scorecards like that, then you have to double that on the official scorecards. But surprisingly the scorecards were not as bad as I thought they would be. Lederman's scorecards still garbage though.

[CarlosG815]

I had Murray winning the fight.

Sergio has just become predictable. Same two punch combo, tires out after the fifth round, and goes down easy. I thought Murray won the entire second half of the fight dominantly and scored a couple knockdowns.

[Golden Boi 360]

1. Martinez
2. Martinez
3. Martinez
4. Martinez
5. Martinez
6. Murray
7. Martinez
8. Murray 10-8
9. Murray
10. Murray
11. Martinez
12. Martinez

Martinez 115-112

[King_]

Murray landed the better punches overall, but he did little over the first three rounds, and I didn't feel he was effective enough to win several other rounds beyond doubt.

For most of rounds 6-10, he was by far the more effective fighter, probably more so than Sergio was at any point, but each round is equally weighted.

And Sergio was more effective beyond doubt? Based on what? Him putting his hands down, showboating and screaming to the fans?


The rounds Sergio won are the ones that could have gone either way, if anything.

[puga]

I only saw the closing rounds but I though Murray nicked them. He handed punches, Sergio hit gloves.

thats pretty much all sergio did...power punches landed, murray beat him 8 rounds to 4 ....right hand was there all night...barker has had success , so did macklin , murray did it most effeciently...

[deanrw]

I had Murray winning the fight.

Sergio has just become predictable. Same two punch combo, tires out after the fifth round, and goes down easy. I thought Murray won the entire second half of the fight dominantly and scored a couple knockdowns.

He has always been predictable, but fast enough to get away with it. he is slowing down now and will suffer the Roy Jones Jr route in his next couple fights

[Jam Jars]

1. Martinez
2. Martinez
3. Martinez
4. Martinez
5. Martinez
6. Murray
7. Martinez
8. Murray 10-8
9. Murray
10. Murray
11. Martinez
12. Martinez

Martinez 115-112

Round 7 wasn't that the round Murray outlanded Martinez 20+ punches to 12 or something? LOL

[Levity]

Murray. Martinez' rounds were close rounds and could have gone either way where as Murray won all of his rounds clearly.

Doesn't matter. A close 10-9 round is worth the same as a one-sided 10-9 round.

Martinez hit gloves on a lot of his punches and Murray landed the harder and cleaner punches. Murray also scored a KD and should of had another one, and the ref called a low blow on a clear body shot that hurt Martienz and if the ref had not called a phantom low blow, Martinez could of even been put down another time because it clearly hurt him.

Except Murray wasn't credited with a second knockdown, and he didn't score a hypothetical third knockdown. Fights are to be judged on what happened, not what might have happened or should have happened.

Murray also landed more punches, landed with better accuracy and snapped Sergio's hear back constantly.

Murray consistently landed well from rounds 6-10. He didn't do much or didn't do much more than Sergio in many other rounds, and each round is weighted equally.