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  • RapidFire_Royce
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    #331
    Yeah I didn't intend it to go down this way But I am 100% positive that not one person who commented on here about why Manny doesn't need to take the test are going to come back and give their opinion on him taking the tests now.

    Is he giving in to public pressure? Does he truly feel Marquez was juicing and now sees the light? I also want to hear him say why he decided to start testing now.

    Great job of picking out some of the gems in there Big Dunn.

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    • tangalog2200
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      #332
      Originally posted by RapidFire_Royce
      boxing insider
      .com/headlines/manny-pacquiao-drops-defamation-case-against-floyd-mayweather/

      sorry not sure how to post links. Just have to add back the www and bring the lines back together. Manny dropped his suit against Mayweather in September of last year.
      sorry you misread my real question....

      i should have used "why" instead of when.....

      i was thinking the cases were dropped "when" gbp in essence made a public apology and floyd's camp did the same thing afterwards albeit i do not know the financial side of the reconciliation....

      but the real point is gbp and floyd's camp did make amends with their baseless accusations....

      i believe it was about the 100% ppv issue floyd called pac for later....not about peds...

      just saying

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      • RapidFire_Royce
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        #333
        Originally posted by tangalog2200
        sorry you misread my real question....

        i should have used "why" instead of when.....

        i was thinking the cases were dropped "when" gbp in essence made a public apology and floyd's camp did the same thing afterwards albeit i do not know the financial side of the reconciliation....

        but the real point is gbp and floyd's camp did make amends with their baseless accusations....

        i believe it was about the 100% ppv issue floyd called pac for later....not about peds...

        just saying
        Ah ok I follow you. Yeah they should have apologized to Manny for leveling any accusations against him without evidence. I don't believe Manny was ever truly afraid of the testing thing I think it was just apart of the whole power struggle that went on during those negotiations. I just felt that immediately afterwards a good tactical move for him would have been to do testing in his very next fight to remove all doubt that the issue was ever about testing.

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        • tangalog2200
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          #334
          Originally posted by Big Dunn
          hope they dont let manny get away with it in the rios fight.
          floyd failed tests 3 times?

          it sure is more in line if you had addressed the point of the above and not deflect it to pac.....................just saying

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          • tangalog2200
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            #335
            Originally posted by RapidFire_Royce
            Ah ok I follow you. Yeah they should have apologized to Manny for leveling any accusations against him without evidence. I don't believe Manny was ever truly afraid of the testing thing I think it was just apart of the whole power struggle that went on during those negotiations. I just felt that immediately afterwards a good tactical move for him would have been to do testing in his very next fight to remove all doubt that the issue was ever about testing.
            that's very well said....

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            • luisivich
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              #336
              the issue of blood testing had already came up after pacquiao's first loss to morales. just google pacquiao morales blood testing. given that circumstances that pacquiao felt cheated in that fight- it would really be improbable that he'd do random blood testing without a cut-off date. that would be a simple explanation- historian want simple explanations.the very first mayweather's demand for blood test for any of his fight is on pacquiao-mayweather negotiation. reason for the test demand- pacquiao's improvement in strength and chin.
              20 years from now it would be remembered as the "failed negotiation between one of the great fighter of that decade and the fighter of the decade over a blood test" pacquiao's lost to marquez will prove that he is not a cherry picker. there's also an interview that of all mexican marquez is the only one that can beat him. all blame will be on mayweather.

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              • The Big Dunn
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                #337
                Originally posted by tangalog2200
                floyd failed tests 3 times?

                it sure is more in line if you had addressed the point of the above and not deflect it to pac.....................just saying
                Huh? I didn't do anmything the poster I qouted did. Don't blame me for other manny fans ridiculousness,

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                • straightleft
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                  #338
                  Originally posted by deejd
                  It doesn't matter. You think anyone [outside of stans] really believes Mayweather ducked the guy that was knocked out by Marquez? Especially considering pac's refusal to agree to random drug testing in the first place.

                  Choosing Bowe-Lewis is a terrible comparison.
                  I can't help but to tell you you are a floydiot. You can't tell the difference between refusal and agreement. Pac agreed to Floyd drug testing but Floyd keep changing the cut off date the moment Pac agreed to the first one. Floyd changed his cut off from 14 days, 7 days, 0 days to 100/0 ppv sales.

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                  • Djanxx
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                    #339
                    Originally posted by straightleft
                    I can't help but to tell you you are a floydiot. You can't tell the difference between refusal and agreement. Pac agreed to Floyd drug testing but Floyd keep changing the cut off date the moment Pac agreed to the first one. Floyd changed his cut off from 14 days, 7 days, 0 days to 100/0 ppv sales.
                    You're a *******.

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                    • ADP02
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                      #340
                      Originally posted by Big Dunn
                      should we now question all of manny's 60 fights now that he is going to test for the rios fight?
                      Did you question Floyd when it was rumored that 3 tests came out positive?

                      Did you question Floyd when he himself admitted to taking drugs to his hands so that he can hit his opponents harder prior to a fight, which is a no-no?

                      Did you question Floyd's first 40 fights since he only started doing "his type" of testing after that?

                      Are you questioning why Floyd was not willing to do like some other fighters who are doing true OST?

                      Are you questioning Floyd when he fights only once per year and thereby giving him the opportunity to take PEDs for about 44 of 52 weeks since Floyd, going by his made up rules compared to OST, only needs to be concerned about getting tested ONLY for about 8 consecutive weeks period a year?

                      Did you question Floyd why did he ask only after negotiating to fight Manny and not his first 40 opponents when it was known/rumored way before then that opponents may be taking PEDs?

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