Is this of any significance for Manny's legacy

[maguirre]

"I'm 100% all Natural" - Floyd Mayweather

Floyd also admitted to taking hand-numbing drugs just prior to a fight which is a no-no! ..... kind of kills his all natural claim!

And the "all natural" guy demands tests. It would seem that he's dependent on peds. Getting tested positive three times. Three effing times. Man, seems any low ranked fighter could beat this guy without peds. Three times.

...bump and have fun....hehe...

[deejd]

He was going to against the ONLY GUY THAT ASKED!!!! .... but the ONLY GUY THAT ASKED then put out a new roadblock PLUS Floyd paid Manny because he couldn't prove that his lies were not lies!

Again, if Floyd didn't put the roadblocks, Manny would have.

History will remember that during that 3 year period Manny was from day one ready to go beyond the commissions rules.
Only Floyd fans can't comprehend that part, which is unfortunate!

So, has pac ever actually done random drug testing?

[deejd]

AGAIN!!! The fact that Pac is mentioned IN THIS THREAD when he is NO DIFFERENT from other champs who have NOT done random testing is what stands out like a sore thumb! Pac is NO DIFFERENT from them and Floyd got his a$$ kicked by the court over his accusations.

Pac isn't just mentioned in this thread, pac is who this thread is about. Comprehension is a beautiful thing.

[deejd]

Richard the reason why I didn't ask this about any of the other champions is because none of them have the fame and accomplishments that paq has.

Honestly I think there are a lot of people using. And like I said in my first post there is a high likelihood that the test they are using now won't catch the latest and greatest drugs.

What I am asking is will it make a difference that he never took a test? will we care? And my personal opinion is that he could have shut Floyd and his entire team up about testing if in the very next fight after the Floyd stuff fell apart he tested. Then there would be no way Floyd could still run around saying he didn't accept testing.

Exactly... instead of negotiating cutoffs and agreeing to all testing (except not within seven days per his own adviser), why not just implement random testing in his fight with Margs? Or Mosley? Or Marquez? Or Bradley? Or why not just request testing prior to signing for the 4th bout since his camp accused Marquez of juicing? Plenty of opportunities to prove that he agreed by just including in his fights. That way, the questions can be posed for Mayweather.

[maguirre]

Random testing is year round. It's useless if it's nominally done within two months, minus 14 days. It's also useless if it's conducted by USADA. Berto, Peterson and Mayweather demanded test. Berto and Peterson got caught by VADA.

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[RapidFire_Royce]

Random testing is year round. It's useless if it's nominally done within two months, minus 14 days. It's also useless if it's conducted by USADA. Berto, Peterson and Mayweather demanded test. Berto and Peterson got caught by VADA.

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The year round has to be the next step towards legitimacy when it comes to a testing system. When and if that ever does happen then I think we will look back and question those who only did partial testing. Since we haven't even been able to get every fight involved in this partial testing we are forced to take baby steps.

[ADP02]

So, has pac ever actually done random drug testing?

Who has done OST? Most have not. Floyd has not.

/End Thread!!!

[ADP02]

What I am asking is will it make a difference that he never took a test? will we care? And my personal opinion is that he could have shut Floyd and his entire team up about testing if in the very next fight after the Floyd stuff fell apart he tested. Then there would be no way Floyd could still run around saying he didn't accept testing.

Manny said for 3 years that he would accept doing more than what the commissions asked. He even said he would do exactly what Floyd wanted as the rules to get the fight on. Still, it didn't make a difference for only some Floyd fans and some Manny haters.

Now let's say Manny took it against Margarito, Bradley, Marquez, ..... Haters would say three things.
1) Why yes against these other guys but not against Floyd?
2) See, while testing, he wasn't able to KO anyone .... he even lost to Marquez and Bradley ....
3) Manny looks different now that he is taking the test. He was probably on something 2 to 3 years ago.


Again, Manny was willing to take the test according to Floyd's rules. Floyd then moved on to a new roadblock. Can't blame Manny nor will history blame Manny on that.

[Vasyl’s dad]

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Originally Posted by ADP02

Not many do OST .... actually not even Floyd does that. A Floyd who has been rumored to have failed 3 drug tests of his own and admitted to taking hand-numbing drugs before a fight, which is a no-no!!!

Manny agreed to do more than the commissions rules from day one but Floyd wanted his exact way. Manny initially refused but then later said, "OK, I will take the testing .... even more than Floyd's initial request ..... even between rounds" ..... Floyd then put out another roadblock! That is what how it will be remembered in history books.

So, has pac ever actually done random drug testing?

name a time when Floyd has.


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[deejd]

Random testing is year round. It's useless if it's nominally done within two months, minus 14 days. It's also useless if it's conducted by USADA. Berto, Peterson and Mayweather demanded test. Berto and Peterson got caught by VADA.

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It's not useless if done within a two-month span. Ask fighters that didn't beat the test.

And--USADA caught Morales doping for the Garcia rematch, so much for them being useless. Kudos to VADA; so has pac actually undergone random drug testing via VADA/USADA yet?