Is this of any significance for Manny's legacy

[richardt]

No i think the majority of people will remember pacquaio falling face first on the canvas and laying there unconscious for 55 sec.

No more than Jones against Johnson and Tarver, no more than Ali against Holmes, Leonard against Camacho.

[richardt]

You all use the "he has agreed to the testing arguement" but until he signs a contract with floyd or any other fight and has the test done, his word doesnt mean ****.

The only way you will know that Pac's word is his bond is if they sign the fight. Till then you can only speculate on either Pc's word OR Mayweather's.

[MindBat]

how many fighters did Floyd accuse before Manny?

None.

Manny had the opportunity to quiet the rumors when they started by:

Taking and passing the tests ... giving Floyd a serious beatdown ... snatching floyd's belts ...

returning to Baguio City as the best boxer who ever lived ...

and filming Wapakman 2, 3, and 4.

Instead, he battled it out in court for chump change and went and got iced by the kid Floyd beat.

[deejd]

Yes that's what the discussion is about because Pac is no more a target for random tests than any other champ who is currently not practicing testing which means testing will have NO MORE of an affect on his legacy than any other champ who does not do testing. Not a difficult concept to grasp. Now how many champs are doing year-round testing???????? Not Mayweather.

What do other champions have to do with pacquiao's legacy pertaining to the drug testing issue? Again, read the title of the thread... it doesn't ask how drug testing has effected every champion in boxing, it pertains to a specific fighter's.

[ADP02]

So why didn't he ever do random drug testing for any of his fights?

Not many do OST .... actually not even Floyd does that. A Floyd who has been rumored to have failed 3 drug tests of his own and admitted to taking hand-numbing drugs before a fight, which is a no-no!!!

Manny agreed to do more than the commissions rules from day one but Floyd wanted his exact way. Manny initially refused but then later said, "OK, I will take the testing .... even more than Floyd's initial request ..... even between rounds" ..... Floyd then put out another roadblock! That is what how it will be remembered in history books.

[lfc19titles]

If you are referring to those "infamous" positive tests then answer me this.

So you think USADA would chase down to no end and eventually take down lance armstrong, a man who donated millions to cancer research and ran a cancer research foundation but cover up a woman beating, jail time serving, controversial boxer?

do your research, look a the contract golden boy use to employ them, usada report to them, who then decide what to do

how do you think guys like berto/pederson and others got off?

when goldenboy used vada, those guys refused to vow down and exposed peterson (first test) golden boy have then tried to run vada out of business and banned them from all events lol also tarnishing their reputation (like they tried to do with pac with floyd before pac demanded test results, leading to them getting exposed and paying pac to drop the case)

pac will be remembered as a guy who was a dumb ass but one who tried his best to make the floyd fight, hell guys like lennord even said pac did all he could and they would not have done that much, the dumb ass bit was for not going in a self promoting direction after cotto

he will also go down as p4p top 10-15 goat, far higher than floyd for what he has achieved, all floyd will go down is in fantasy fights as in reality, he never took the ultimate test

[MJ223]

Seriously doubt it

[lfc19titles]

You all use the "he has agreed to the testing arguement" but until he signs a contract with floyd or any other fight and has the test done, his word doesnt mean ****.

lol you twit, what don't you get...

floyd demanded 14 days

when pac agreed floyd changed the hurdles

when pac said ok to 0 cut off, floyd went on vacation

when he came back, he then tried to short change pac to make sure the fight never ever happens

the reality is that it has been years since pac has agreed to 0 cut off, he agreed to it all but it was floyd changing his 50-50 stance which ruined the fight

the 3 times pac put the fans infront of his ego to meet floyds demands, floyd changed the hurdles

fact

[maguirre]

Man, Floyd worshipers bringing up testing again. It's mind boggling when their hero tested positive three times and got away with it. It would be the last topic I would bring up if I were a Floyd worshiper. It's embarrassing. Don't know how the mind of a worshiper works, but it's certainly not normal. How is this normal? My hero asked for extra testing. Here he is getting tested positive. And I'm concerned about the other guy's issues?

[deejd]

Not many do OST .... actually not even Floyd does that. A Floyd who has been rumored to have failed 3 drug tests of his own and admitted to taking hand-numbing drugs before a fight, which is a no-no!!!

Manny agreed to do more than the commissions rules from day one but Floyd wanted his exact way. Manny initially refused but then later said, "OK, I will take the testing .... even more than Floyd's initial request ..... even between rounds" ..... Floyd then put out another roadblock! That is what how it will be remembered in history books.

So, has pac ever actually done random drug testing?