Rate Mayweather and Rigondeaux boxing skills 1-10

[Pacquiao'd]

What a meaningless thread

[Doctor_Tenma]

A lot more to boxing than what's being listed. Being able to fight going backwards, standing in the pocket, body punching, or naming their weaponry, far more separates Mayweather from Rigondeaux in my opinion.

[littlemac]

Rigondeaux
Hand speed = 10
Power = 10
Defense = 10
Footwork = 10
Reflexes = 10
Boxing IQ = 10
Counter punching = 10
Durability = 10

Overall = God status.

[*ANGRY CUBAN*]

Realistic ratings:

Mayweather
Hand speed = 10
Power = 8
Offense = 10
Defense = 10
Footwork = 10
Reflexes = 10
Boxing IQ = 10
Counter punching = 10
Durability = 10
Overall = 88

Rigondeaux
Hand speed = 10
Power = 4
Offense = 1
Defense = 7
Footwork = 10
Reflexes = 10
Boxing IQ = 10
Counter punching = 10
Durability = 3
Overall = 65

Rigo power:4 offence:1 but somehow he managed to hurt and have running in the 12 the man that nobody ever hurt..vic for you must be like -6......durability: 3 but he survived the 12 round and won comfortably against the dude who knock everybody out Montiel who got KTFO in the second round should be -10 in durability....hater way to score

[Carpe Diem]

Let's add versatility to the mix.

[Ferrarijones]

Its hard to rate on a system like the one you presented. I will say this; Rigo only has so many counters. Check right hook, straight left counters, and left uppercuts. If you take those away, there's really not more variety left. Mayweather is all over the place with his counters. Rigo has to run allot. Floyd can stand and fight on the inside if he wants. Sometimes if you throw a punch at Rigo that is not close enough to land, he will still move. Floyd is an expert at range and inches. If you throw a punch at him that is a milli-inch away, he will not even blink his eye. He already knows its not close enough to land. He will look dead at the punch, as it stops inches away from his whiskers. Very sure of every single detale of your reach and range. Rigo is one of those guys that was taught the defensive moves to where he can move in all types of ways to avoid a punch. Floyd was taught all of these things as well, but he doesnt always use them. He sometimes already knows that you're an inch too far for your punch to actually land. That alone places Floyd above Pep, Niccoli, Pernell, and Rigo. Its more than defense with Floyd, its instinctively understanding your opponent's reach capabilities. Which is amazing.

Brilliant post. I noticed much of what you mention in the Ortiz fight as brief as that was. He did so many subtle things that made Ortiz look foolish.

[manueltf]

Its hard to rate on a system like the one you presented. I will say this; Rigo only has so many counters. Check right hook, straight left counters, and left uppercuts. If you take those away, there's really not more variety left. Mayweather is all over the place with his counters. Rigo has to run allot. Floyd can stand and fight on the inside if he wants. Sometimes if you throw a punch at Rigo that is not close enough to land, he will still move. Floyd is an expert at range and inches. If you throw a punch at him that is a milli-inch away, he will not even blink his eye. He already knows its not close enough to land. He will look dead at the punch, as it stops inches away from his whiskers. Very sure of every single detale of your reach and range. Rigo is one of those guys that was taught the defensive moves to where he can move in all types of ways to avoid a punch. Floyd was taught all of these things as well, but he doesnt always use them. He sometimes already knows that you're an inch too far for your punch to actually land. That alone places Floyd above Pep, Niccoli, Pernell, and Rigo. Its more than defense with Floyd, its instinctively understanding your opponent's reach capabilities. Which is amazing.

Hope your point of view on Rigo will go changing insofar that you can see more Rigo's fights. Of course Mayweather is a superb fighter.

Rigo can throw any kinds of punches from unimaginable positions. Luckily we are in the video age, so we can see his professional fights and some videos from his amateur career.
Rigo has more fighting expericence than any other present fighter. I'm following Rigo's boxing career since he was 18 years old. In his early years he was throwing a lot of punches but now he is in a superior level. At present, Rigo economizes punches, he only throws punches to make real damage.

About his defensive tecniques: only say that Rigo receives a lot less than Mayweather. You can compare Rigo vs Donaire with Mayweather vs Cotto, for example

[techliam]

This is a weird comparison

First, Floyd is at his 4th or 5th Weightclass. In his natural weightclass, he's way better. On top of this, the guy is on the decline because of age.

Floyd has shown consistently he can adapt to any style of the top fighters in his weight class.

Rigo has shown he adapted to 1 style of a top fighter in his weight class, hence Floyd is ranked way higher in terms of P4P - Rigo hasn't shown he can adapt to Floyd's style.

So I guess you can do these lists and pretend boxing is like Fight Night Champion or something, but it doesn't mean much.

And this is coming from a guy who doesn't even like Floyd

[Dr Rumack]

Floyd 8.9
Rigo 8.6
Tyson Fury 14

[manueltf]

This is a weird comparison

First, Floyd is at his 4th or 5th Weightclass. In his natural weightclass, he's way better. On top of this, the guy is on the decline because of age.

Floyd has shown consistently he can adapt to any style of the top fighters in his weight class.

Rigo has shown he adapted to 1 style of a top fighter in his weight class, hence Floyd is ranked way higher in terms of P4P - Rigo hasn't shown he can adapt to Floyd's style.

So I guess you can do these lists and pretend boxing is like Fight Night Champion or something, but it doesn't mean much.

And this is coming from a guy who doesn't even like Floyd

At present, with 17 different weight classes, be a champion of several classes do not mean too much.

For example: Mares was champion at 118 fighting two times vs the same rival Agbeko (wining by SD and UD). He went straight into a title fight at 122 vs a 118 weight fighter and defended vs another 118 weight rival (Mares was a truly champion at 122?)... and now went straight into a title fight at 126.

You completely ignore Rigo's amateur career, but he is a world elite boxer since 2000. He is undefeated for more than 10 years and won: 2 Olympic gold medals, 2 World Championships, as well as many other tournaments (where boxers canīt avoid or select rivals) and... SEVEN Cuban National Championships!!! That's why he is the best boxer in amateur history and the best Cuban boxer in history (amateur and pro).

Rigo fought and defeated several boxers similar or superiors to Donaire. He already met all the styles and kinds of boxer. Most of professional boxers can't say the same.