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  • The Great Marquez just saying what any right minded boxing fan sees. Good fight, good win for Canelo, but not on elite. Just like when Roy Jones beat Ruiz in the heavyweight division, hreat win but that did not make Jones an Elite in the Heavyweight division. Nothing wrong with his opinion.

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    • Originally posted by mrpizza-nd_beer View Post
      The red haired mexican has elite tatoo'd all over him. He just made the best 154lbe'r out there look like a fool missing shots and this boy isn't a boxer first. He's a slugger like the boxing god mexicans has always revered. A slugger outboxing the boxer is elite in my world. IMO, he did better than Pacquiao in beating a really good boxer in his own game. It was not only a matter of brute strength he showed but intelligence and maturity beyond his years.

      That is why this last fight he had had Floyd worried and running.
      He beat Cotto and....what? Trout and Canelo both were fighters who hadn't done much coming into this fight. Canelo is now a fighter who's done something. Does NOT make him elite, makes him good with a chance to earn an elite spot. Also Canelo is not a slugger. He's a boxer-puncher. There is a difference you know... I wasn't overly impressed but he gets a lot of credit for the win. He showed a terrible weakness in his stamina it seemed, and the open scoring really changed the fight quite a bit... some many intangibles in that fight really.

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      • Originally posted by *ANGRY CUBAN* View Post
        Boxing=hit and don't get hit..that some of you have not love for the pure science is ok but..both vanes and canelo both beat Trout one in cool fashion the other in a fight that many through Trout won...
        no you have it wrong.

        what rigo did against donaire was beautiful.

        When Lara fought Vanes...well I would have rather went outside grabbed a cricket and scorpion put them in a shoe box and watch them go at it.

        trout beats both Lara and vanes...

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        • Originally posted by mex602 View Post
          no you have it wrong.

          what rigo did against donaire was beautiful.

          When Lara fought Vanes...well I would have rather went outside grabbed a cricket and scorpion put them in a shoe box and watch them go at it.

          trout beats both Lara and vanes...
          i'm not sure about that and neither are you,you just want to believe that because it makes canelo look better

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          • Originally posted by letsgobrady View Post
            i'm not sure about that and neither are you,you just want to believe that because it makes canelo look better
            haha ok you think VANES beats trout????????

            Lara????

            your just a canelo hater and you know that makes him look better. before canelo trout NONE OF YOU mentioned lara or vanes untill JMM just did.

            Look, I see where JMM is coming from I do think he is a bit jealous because JMM never got this attention.

            He should no that he (JMM) is #1 in mexico. There is just too many of us mexican boxing fans for all of us to be on the same team.

            I will be pissed if canelo only fights twice a year for now on. Way too young. He should do like 2011 and go for 4 fights. hell take out Lara or Vanes in july.

            even if he did canelo haters would be crying that he needs to fight someone out of left field like Fernando Vargas or Tito....or even Margs.

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            • Originally posted by mex602 View Post
              haha ok you think VANES beats trout????????

              Lara????

              your just a canelo hater and you know that makes him look better. before canelo trout NONE OF YOU mentioned lara or vanes untill JMM just did.

              Look, I see where JMM is coming from I do think he is a bit jealous because JMM never got this attention.

              He should no that he (JMM) is #1 in mexico. There is just too many of us mexican boxing fans for all of us to be on the same team.

              I will be pissed if canelo only fights twice a year for now on. Way too young. He should do like 2011 and go for 4 fights. hell take out Lara or Vanes in july.

              even if he did canelo haters would be crying that he needs to fight someone out of left field like Fernando Vargas or Tito....or even Margs.
              i'm a canelo hater?you know who i was going for on saturday?canelo and this proves my point you are so obsesed with canelo that you assume i'm a canelo hater because i'm not sure if trout beats vanes or lara.if you go look at my post befor the fight i said that canelo and trout were both un proven to me and part of the reason i wanted canelo to win is because i felt like trout was bein to overrated.

              did i critcize canelo win over trout?no because like you said all of us had been saying that canelo needs to beat a top jr mw and he did but if some of us don't say he is the best boxer in the world we are somehow not giving him credit

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              • everyone knows losing to chris john makes you elite

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                • Originally posted by letsgobrady View Post
                  i'm a canelo hater?you know who i was going for on saturday?canelo and this proves my point you are so obsesed with canelo that you assume i'm a canelo hater because i'm not sure if trout beats vanes or lara.if you go look at my post befor the fight i said that canelo and trout were both un proven to me and part of the reason i wanted canelo to win is because i felt like trout was bein to overrated.

                  did i critcize canelo win over trout?no because like you said all of us had been saying that canelo needs to beat a top jr mw and he did but if some of us don't say he is the best boxer in the world we are somehow not giving him credit
                  oh ok my bad.

                  There are just so many canelo haters for dumb reasons I just put you in that category

                  im not obsessed with canelo though. I thnk he still has alot to prove so in a way I agree with JMM. He needs to keep fighting and not wait on floyd. Im confident he can clean out 154. Lara and Angulo would be his biggest challenges. But I do think vanes and Lara get beat by trout. trout really impressed me saturday and I thought the score cards were way off.

                  im very curious to see Lara vs Angulo

                  I really hope canelo fights this summer. I will be pissed if he turns into a twice a year fighter.

                  Only Money and JMM Maravilla rate that.

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                  • Originally posted by daggum View Post
                    everyone knows losing to chris john makes you elite
                    yeah and JMM is ducking Jimrex Jaca and Liker Ramos

                    why hasnt he given them their rematch?!?!?!?!

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                    • Originally posted by mex602 View Post
                      oh ok my bad.

                      There are just so many canelo haters for dumb reasons I just put you in that category
                      im not obsessed with canelo though. I thnk he still has alot to prove so in a way I agree with JMM. He needs to keep fighting and not wait on floyd. Im confident he can clean out 154. Lara and Angulo would be his biggest challenges. But I do think vanes and Lara get beat by trout. trout really impressed me saturday and I thought the score cards were way off.

                      im very curious to see Lara vs Angulo

                      I really hope canelo fights this summer. I will be pissed if he turns into a twice a year fighter.

                      Only Money and JMM Maravilla rate that.
                      to be fair there do seem to be some who are not giving canelo credit for doin what they asked him to do which was beat a top 154 pounder instead they talk about the scoring or the open scoring or how they were not impressed

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