So what exactly won Canelo the fight???

[Roy Jones Jnr]

Scorecards should most definitely have been closer but Canelo won the fight.

Props to Trout who took his defeat gracefully, he put up a strong competitive performance, 'no doubt' he'll back.

This thread sounds to me like a Mayweather fanboy getting in his excuses early, trying to downplay Canelo's win so he can take the heat of Mayweather slightly if he avoids Canelo.

[Roy Jones Jnr]

Trout was beating the **** outta the air....Nelo was slipping his shots styling on him....Trout was heavy with the jab rate and he landed some good body shots....he was in the fight all night...**** what the scores said

I'm not into workrates...if a dude is throwing and missing...the guy making him miss must be rewarded so that has to be taken into consideration when scoring rounds imo...some rounds Nelo didn't do **** and some rounds he didn't do **** for 2 minutes but ended landing the "OOH" punch of the round....the fight was mad close....I don't have no complaints about Nelo getting the "W" at all

my problem is with how WIDE the scores were....that took away from the beauty of a fight that was actually good in terms of action...even when Nelo wasn't throwing **** he remained dangerous and Trout was willing to exchange with him in DANGER range.....gutsy stuff imo

if one guy(Calzaghe) is throwing and the other guy(Hopkins) is making him miss but occasionally gets clipped by jab or a straight to body but also delivering those "OOH" punches....can't complain really about him getting the "W" imo....the dude beating up the air might've LOOKED like he was handling things but if you're missing....you're not handling **** imo

GREAT point.

Let's not kid ourselves, Canelo was going to win this fight whatever happened. So fck the judges, we knew beforehand they were gonna favor Canelo, however this was no robbery.

Trout put up a great effort and the fight was very close, but no doubt that Canelo was the winner.

[TOBYLEE1]

Canela fights like Laurent Boudouani used to fight. Strong fast precise punches in spurts. Canelo's defense was good but he don't punch in that posture

[-PBP-]

Clean, effective punches won him the fight.

Trout came in hoping to jab em, jab em, turn em and grab em on his way to a win and that doesn't work in big fights like this. In the amateurs, all punches are equal, whether its a jab or a thundering body shot, its 1 point.

In the pros, Trout can flicker out 58 jabs, land 20 of them and seemingly "control the round" but that gets erased when Canelo lands a vicous uppercut inside, a solid right to the body or that straight right hand he found a home with.

Boxers need to learn to commit to their punches. Rigondeaux, moves and is very economical but when he throws, he commits and intends to hurt you. Even a light puncher like Pernell Whitaker even put enough behind his punches to get his opponent's respect.

Trout wasn't getting anything behind his punches. He was inaccurate (that is not effective aggression), Canelo was making him miss, making him pay (defense/ring generalship) and landing the cleaner, harder punches.

Close but clear win for Canelo. The only downside of last night was the open scoring and the margins of the judges scorecards.

[Daddy T]

I'm being serious. How did he win?

hurt his man, knocked him down, was more dangerous throughout ... question for you... who landed the ... let's say 12 hardest punches? Who hurt the other guy and who didn't? trout threw more and missed more he did well and it was very close but I thought Canelo did enough to edge it. Scorecard were far too wide though.

[Ray*]

Clean, effective punches won him the fight.

Trout came in hoping to jab em, jab em, turn em and grab em on his way to a win and that doesn't work in big fights like this. In the amateurs, all punches are equal, whether its a jab or a thundering body shot, its 1 point.

In the pros, Trout can flicker out 58 jabs, land 20 of them and seemingly "control the round" but that gets erased when Canelo lands a vicous uppercut inside, a solid right to the body or that straight right hand he found a home with.

Boxers need to learn to commit to their punches. Rigondeaux, moves and is very economical but when he throws, he commits and intends to hurt you. Even a light puncher like Pernell Whitaker even put enough behind his punches to get his opponent's respect.

Trout wasn't getting anything behind his punches. He was inaccurate (that is not effective aggression), Canelo was making him miss, making him pay (defense/ring generalship) and landing the cleaner, harder punches.

Close but clear win for Canelo. The only downside of last night was the open scoring and the margins of the judges scorecards.

Perfect post on this subject.

[pesticid]

Trout was beating the **** outta the air....Nelo was slipping his shots styling on him....Trout was heavy with the jab rate and he landed some good body shots....he was in the fight all night...**** what the scores said

I'm not into workrates...if a dude is throwing and missing...the guy making him miss must be rewarded so that has to be taken into consideration when scoring rounds imo...some rounds Nelo didn't do **** and some rounds he didn't do **** for 2 minutes but ended landing the "OOH" punch of the round....the fight was mad close....I don't have no complaints about Nelo getting the "W" at all

my problem is with how WIDE the scores were....that took away from the beauty of a fight that was actually good in terms of action...even when Nelo wasn't throwing **** he remained dangerous and Trout was willing to exchange with him in DANGER range.....gutsy stuff imo

if one guy(Calzaghe) is throwing and the other guy(Hopkins) is making him miss but occasionally gets clipped by jab or a straight to body but also delivering those "OOH" punches....can't complain really about him getting the "W" imo....the dude beating up the air might've LOOKED like he was handling things but if you're missing....you're not handling **** imo

Good post but the Bhop vs Zaghe analogy ain't right because even though Zaghe missed a lot, he made BHop look old by making him clinch the most of his career out of fear for not getting clip, constantly moving away without landing much either except for the first two rounds. Faking low blows so he can take a breather. Going to the wrong corner 3 times. Zaghe was the boss and Bhop was all about negative fighting (clinching, headbutts, complaining to the refs about non-existent low-blows, just acting like a guy who doesn't want to fight). Canelo didn't show any of these characteristics.

[BTTAG145]

Canela is a Mexican fighting in Texas, it's silly to think he won't get the decision every time.
ODLH all but made it clear the whole promotion who was going to win.
The only way for Trout to win was by KO and he's not that type of fighter.
The best Canelo did last night was earn a draw IMO. I don't know how they had those wide scores for a guy that took multiple rounds off and barely threw the whole fight it seemed.

[New England]

His power changed one round......one round.

he hurt trout on several occasions.

you're asking yourself "who did more damage over the course of the round."

there werer many occasions where alvarez did more damage i the round.

trout was boxing well in spots, but he was missing a lot of his punches, and he wasn't always doing more damage.


you can throw more punches, even land more punches, and still lose the fight. trout can stay at range and jab all round, even landing a few jabs. if canelo clocks him with a right hand and it drops him it's a 10-8 round.

this is pro boxing. you score the effectiveness of the punches. many of the guys on this forum are hopeless fanboys, and can't score a fight anyway.



this was a close fight. a close fight is not a robbery.

[Daddy T]

His power changed one round......one round.

professional fights are judged differently to amateur ones u know, power counts and hurtful shots count and big draining body shots count.