Can Donaire Beat the Same Version of Rigondeaux in a rematch?

[waxfondler]

a great fighter can deal with all styles of opponents. I think the pressure is on the opponent not the star.

Rigo didn't fight selfish-he boxed. Truly great fighters like duran and chavez all fought boxers but they knew how to cut off the ring and worked the body to nuetralize their opponent. Nonito couldnt do this.

Once Nonito saw what rigo was doing he shouldve adapted. Crowd booing isnt an excuse. The lack of action was Nonito, not rigo. Nonito felt those punches and simply didnt want to get hit so he stood and waited to land one punch. His inactivity was his ONLY defense.

In the post Tyson era alot of fans are enamored with power. Here on NSB its to the extreme. Nonito destroyed very good opponents but none of them made Nonito work on the skills he lacked.

i totally agree that 'nito's inability to adapt WAS the problem. personally, i dont believe all his excuses... and i found myself more upset with 'nito instead of rigo. donaire refused to do anything else but load up on a shot... BUT, i do feel rigo was a bit stingy for my taste. when he decided to mix it up, he got dropped, so i dont blame him for playing it safe. again, we wouldve got a more dynamic fight if rigo opened up a bit more, FOTY-type dynamic.

this was a great learning experience for donaire. like you said, GREAT fighters can deal with all types of opponents... and i, personally, wouldnt call either fighter "great" yet. but at the moment, rigo is showing more promise obviously.

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People citing that Nonito will make adjustments are failing to realize that so will Rigo, who already knows a lot of Donaire's weaknesses. The fight would be even easier for Rigo in a rematch, who although boxed beautifully, I felt he gave Donaire too much respect. It's a very bad style match up for Donaire, he'd only look worse in a rematch.

[Cubanborn87]

I dont think so , rigo is just all wrong for him.

[dibzvincent143]

Rigondeaux ate his soul already. Mentally i don't think he could cope up considering his ego and confidence level. Styles make fights and even in a year i dont think anyone can change donaire's style. Rigo is a bad match up. Just like floyd is to JMM.

[HeroBando]

Donaire knows best, he didn't even want the rematch.

[MASTER1454]

Anyone can beat anyone on any given day.

The minute that someone believes otherwise, they become just a fan and not a student of the game.

If I were wrong, upsets would not exist, and I have seen some long shots not only KO better accomplished boxers, but outwork them as well.

Keep in mind that skills and attributes are only one part of the total picture.

There are intangibles like personal life crisis; vices such as drinking, smoking, drugs; fighters partying and not training; trainers making horrible game plans, etc.

Many of these things have played huge roles on who wins a match. Some are just so talented and gifted that they can pull off a win despite all those things working against them.

Donaire was schooled. There is no doubt about that. His lack of versatility was exposed and the blueprint was laid as to how to frustrate him and keep him at bay.

He seems like he can make adjustments in house as a fighter. Just not over the phone with his trainer.

Excellent post!



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[The Big Dunn]

i totally agree that 'nito's inability to adapt WAS the problem. personally, i dont believe all his excuses... and i found myself more upset with 'nito instead of rigo. donaire refused to do anything else but load up on a shot... BUT, i do feel rigo was a bit stingy for my taste. when he decided to mix it up, he got dropped, so i dont blame him for playing it safe. again, we wouldve got a more dynamic fight if rigo opened up a bit more, FOTY-type dynamic.

this was a great learning experience for donaire. like you said, GREAT fighters can deal with all types of opponents... and i, personally, wouldnt call either fighter "great" yet. but at the moment, rigo is showing more promise obviously.

Rigo shouldn't be limited to only fighting nonito's type of fight. Nonito was the guy ranked top 5 p4p, he should be able to deal with rigo's style.

The fight would've been better if Nonito tried more. WHen he finally stepped on the pedal-rds 10-12, he got th KD but rigo regained control 45 secs later. In the 11th and 12th nonito ate shots-culminating with the black eye. Nonito kept his hand up afterwards.

Fighters know when they are outclassed and in trouble, no matter how much we as fans like them. Look at floyd-hes back with his dad because cotto hit him way more than he should so its back to the defense. No matter what line of bs they sell us-they know the truth.

Nonito fought like he didn't want to get KTFO in front of his pregnant wife in the biggest fight on the biggest stage of his career. Least he didnt pulla zab judah or victor ortiz.

He can get better and will still be a problem for top fighters as he moves up.

[B-Bomber]

From what we've seen, he doesn't have much chances, but it's not impossible.

As others have suggested, the best way to beat Rigondeaux, in my opinion, is to not allow him to box.

One can call the kd cheap, but that was naive of Rigondeaux, nonetheless.

How would Rigondeaux cope with somebody holding and hitting, using his forearms, 'accidentally' throwing elbows on the inside, clinching , smothering and pushing him to the ropes?.

Rigo is a rather small guy, smaller than Donaire.

How good is his inside game?. So far I cannot tell, but he showed some degree of naivety in the KD.

Can Donaire fight on the inside?. I don't know either, the only real advantage he has is being bigger and probably more powerful.

[sicko]

*** No! If he could, he would be calling for a rematch, seems to me like Donaire is just ready to move up, he don't want no more of Rigondeaux

That style is difficult to fight against!

[MASTER1454]

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Originally Posted by Suavecito80

Donaire is 31 years old and getting a new trainer will do nothing. He got use to being able to walk down, slower, smaller and older (arce, nishoska) fighters once he got in the ring with a fighter that surpassed his speed and could actually box he had nothing to offer. In the tenth round he got an ugly sort of cheap knockdown and what happened after that? Rigo got up and pasted his ass the rest of the round and fight. I just think Rigo is a technically smarter fighter that has his number.




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Cheap knockdown it was. And when Rigo got up, he was like "Damn!". 10/10 times Rigo takes his lunch money.....


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