Can Donaire Beat the Same Version of Rigondeaux in a rematch?

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  • FlatLine
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    Can Donaire Beat the Same Version of Rigondeaux in a rematch?

    What do you think Donaire's chances would be in an immediate rematch with Rigo.. Does he have a shot to beat him or is the style match up something he can't overcome?

    Roy Jones Jr noted one tactical error in Donaire's game plan - he said Donaire neglected to throw the lead right hand regularly which is one way to approach a southpaw opponent. Whether it was Rigo's defense or Donaire's ill-preparation we don't know for sure.

    Do you believe Donaire when he says he wasn't feeling 100% going into the fight? If you don't believe that then could Donaire switch tactics to secure a victory? Or is Rigondeaux too good for any version of Donaire?
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    Donaire could change tactics to possibly beat Rigondeaux
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    Donaire wasn't 100% trained/fit - - rematch could go EITHER WAY
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  • El Angel
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    Nothing Donaire can do will change the outcome of the fight. His shoulder and the weight didn't bother him when he fought Nishioka and Arce. Rigondeaux is out of league by a LOT. Rigondeaux wins the fight 10 times out of 10, no disrespect to Donaire, he was just so clearly out of his depth, reminded me of Ward-Dawson, two different classes of fighters. One can adapt to his opponent, one can't.

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    • techliam
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      #3
      I don't think Donaire can fit comfortably at the weight anymore. From what i've heard anyway.

      But I didn't see Donaire as he usually is that night. and like I said before, noone can say for absolute certain, that it was all because of Rigo's skill. The fact Donaire is getting surgery raises some questions... you don't really fake a surgery. But for one, i'll be looking forward for a rematch if it ever gets made

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      • Sweet Pea 50
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        I'll entertain the thought.

        A good lead right is a great weapon to have against a southpaw.

        From the sounds of things, Donaire has had a bad right shoulder for a minute that he is going need surgery for.

        If they rematch at 126, we shall see.

        Who knows what lies in the future.

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        • vacon04
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          #5
          Rigondeaux is just too good for Donaire.

          There's nothing else to say.

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          • HughJass
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            #6
            doniare is a great fighter but you have to take into consideration that rigondeaux is a extra special fighter.rigondeaux skill set is far to much for doniare who we all know relies far to much on that left hook.

            rigondeaux beats him 10/10 , stylezmakefights.

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            • MurkaMan
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              #7
              Originally posted by FlatLine
              What do you think Donaire's chances would be in an immediate rematch with Rigo.. Does he have a shot to beat him or is the style match up something he can't overcome?

              Roy Jones Jr noted one tactical error in Donaire's game plan - he said Donaire neglected to throw the lead right hand regularly which is one way to approach a southpaw opponent. Whether it was Rigo's defense or Donaire's ill-preparation we don't know for sure.

              Do you believe Donaire when he says he wasn't feeling 100% going into the fight? If you don't believe that then could Donaire switch tactics to secure a victory? Or is Rigondeaux too good for any version of Donaire?
              Yes. Donaire has to put both gloves up, to catch that straight-left as much as possible(Rigo's hardest punch), and walk through the other punches, applying relentless pressure. Rigo would be too small to deal with it, if Donaire was landing. Mares-Moreno style, Cotto-Judah style. He gonna get hit anyways, but as big as he is, he can be very affective. Also Donaire kind of fights like Margarita. One thing I notice, is he needs his feet to be planted in order to throw. He has to throw punches while walking, non-stop.

              I absoluely believe he can crush Rigo, but overrated "slick" fighters dont make this adjustment easily. So Donaire would have a hard time coping with this gameplan. But look at the size difference. Donaire is a HUGE bum. Flatfooted, big head, slow guy, against Rigo. He could make it work but he's kind of ******.

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              • KidneyPunch
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                #8
                Anyone can beat anyone on any given day.

                The minute that someone believes otherwise, they become just a fan and not a student of the game.

                If I were wrong, upsets would not exist, and I have seen some long shots not only KO better accomplished boxers, but outwork them as well.

                Keep in mind that skills and attributes are only one part of the total picture.

                There are intangibles like personal life crisis; vices such as drinking, smoking, drugs; fighters partying and not training; trainers making horrible game plans, etc.

                Many of these things have played huge roles on who wins a match. Some are just so talented and gifted that they can pull off a win despite all those things working against them.

                Donaire was schooled. There is no doubt about that. His lack of versatility was exposed and the blueprint was laid as to how to frustrate him and keep him at bay.

                He seems like he can make adjustments in house as a fighter. Just not over the phone with his trainer.

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                • !! Shawn
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by El Angel
                  Nothing Donaire can do will change the outcome of the fight. His shoulder and the weight didn't bother him when he fought Nishioka and Arce. Rigondeaux is out of league by a LOT. Rigondeaux wins the fight 10 times out of 10, no disrespect to Donaire, he was just so clearly out of his depth, reminded me of Ward-Dawson, two different classes of fighters. One can adapt to his opponent, one can't.
                  I wouldn't go that far. Donaire fought very well tactically. It was a great fight because both men are such brilliant tacticians.

                  Rigondeaux was just a half step a head the whole night, and he will a half step ahead every time they fight.

                  That half step a head makes all the difference in a game of milliseconds and inches.

                  The thing Rigo showed is that when you step it up against him, he steps right up with you, and does it better and harder.

                  Donaire was making adjustments, but when Rigo would see the adjustments, he would make and adjustment to make Donaires adjustment no long work.

                  Like when Donaire started throwing that right hand low and to the side to walk Rigo into it when he slipped, it worked twice, then Rigo changed to that low step out to the right slip he was doing.

                  I honestly don't think any other fighter in the world would have performed as well as donaire did.

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                  • noStylez
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                    #10
                    If Donaire wants a rematch with Rigo, he earns more respect after the lesson he got.
                    Sadly though I highly doubt Arum would make a rematch.

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