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  • Earl-Hickey
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    #21
    Originally posted by Japanese Boxing
    Lol@Rigo having more talent than Ward or the fact that he has more tools. Rigo has the same game he's always had. It's really ****ing good, but Ward can beat you with almost any style. He's always adapting, always bringing in new angles and techniques that his opposition can't prepare for. Ward is one of the best fighters we've seen in a long time, he's that special. Rigo is just a damn good counter puncher with tremendous speed and specialized skills.
    Yeah when I see those skills and adaptablility brought to a young, prime p4p'r then we'll talk ok.

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    • ShoulderRoll
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      #22
      Wasn't Chad Dawson a young, prime P4P'r?

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        #23
        Originally posted by Japanese Boxing
        Lol@Rigo having more talent than Ward or the fact that he has more tools. Rigo has the same game he's always had. It's really ****ing good, but Ward can beat you with almost any style. He's always adapting, always bringing in new angles and techniques that his opposition can't prepare for. Ward is one of the best fighters we've seen in a long time, he's that special. Rigo is just a damn good counter puncher with tremendous speed and specialized skills.
        I don't think Ward has more talent than Rigondeaux, while he I agree on him being more versatile.

        As far as pure boxing skills go, I'd give Rigondeaux the edge.
        Ward on the other hand has a very high ring iq, along with a rare ability to be good at almost everything he does. He can fight inside, outside, box , fight 'dirty' if needed.

        That said, p4p wise I think Rigo deserves to be among the best 5, but not first. Not yet at least, he is 32 and will probably want to make other big fights as soon as possible.

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        • Dr Rumack
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          #24
          Not American. Needs to show how hard he hits against someone like Gavin Rees first.

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          • Earl-Hickey
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            #25
            Originally posted by ShoulderRoll
            Wasn't Chad Dawson a young, prime P4P'r?
            No he was a never was who had been exposed by basic Jean Pascal, and had been dragged down in weight.

            he was even worse than Froch and Kessler

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            • Barn
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              #26
              I think placing Rigo about #7-8 P4P is reasonable. He proved his worth but he only has one elite win, I'm sure there will be more very goods wins and more dominance to come though, another good win would place him into the Top 5 for me.
              Last edited by Barn; 04-14-2013, 07:40 AM.

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              • La_Vibora
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                #27
                Im not putting Rigo ahead of Wardyet, but he definitely goes ahead of Broner.

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                • Ryan RFC
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                  #28
                  I think Rigondeaux still needs a few more quality fighters on his resume before you can put him in a bracket with the very elite P4P fighters. Skill-wise, he is very much in that bracket but he needs the wins to go with his ability.

                  Donaire is a fantastic win and puts him easily in the top 10 P4P, possibly top 5, but Kennedy and Marroquin are not good enough to compare with Froch, Kessler and Dawson on Ward's resume.

                  I'd love to see Rigondeaux fight the winner of Mares - Ponce de Leon. If he schools either of them the way he schooled Donaire, then there would be a far better argument for him being mentioned alongside Ward, Martinez, Mayweather etc.

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                  • Barn
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by Ryan RFC
                    I think Rigondeaux still needs a few more quality fighters on his resume before you can put him in a bracket with the very elite P4P fighters. Skill-wise, he is very much in that bracket but he needs the wins to go with his ability.

                    Donaire is a fantastic win and puts him easily in the top 10 P4P, possibly top 5, but Kennedy and Marroquin are not good enough to compare with Froch, Kessler and Dawson on Ward's resume.

                    I'd love to see Rigondeaux fight the winner of Mares - Ponce de Leon. If he schools either of them the way he schooled Donaire, then there would be a far better argument for him being mentioned alongside Ward, Martinez, Mayweather etc.
                    Why, that's a FW bout? Unless Mares comes back down I don't want Rigo moving up to fight any of them.

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                    • White_Knight
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                      #30
                      Rigondeaux is p4p no.1.

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