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  • Simurgh
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    #21
    Originally posted by LacedUp
    Better than against Pianeta when you are the champ.
    Haye said that he wants two fights and then the title shot. He even said it might happen after the first one as he is making the statement.

    How the hell fighting Wawrzyk would give him any of that...This fight would be bad even for David Price boost of confidence.

    You can't compare that with Wlad's stay busy fights (although all his recent opponents are waaay better than this guy). It's different when Wlad fights 3 times per year and Haye who is fighting once per year when he is not retired...

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    • 4Corners
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      #22
      Charr, Pianeta, This guy......they all suck. I don't even know why there's a debate on this.

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        #23
        Originally posted by BattlingNelson
        So Charr > Wawrzyk? I don't know about Wawrzyk TBH, but I know Charr was dominated by Vitali before being stopped so he's hardly a match for Haye if he is as good as his stans say he is.

        Why wont Haye fight some proven commodity like Povetkin or Pulev? A big win vs. either would send a message to the klits for sure.
        I am telling you Charr is not great but he is Ali for Wawrzyk...
        I watched the guy - he is beyond bad.

        In the ideal world - Haye should fight Pulev... but well, I could live with Charr.

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        • Jam Jars
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          #24
          Klitschko fans keep saying fights like this do nothing for Haye to earn a shot, while supporting fights like Pianeta when the guy hasn't even fought a top 50 fighter. They're a pathetic bunch.

          They also ridicule Haye's choices, but seem to not want to admit that Vitali (#2 of the division) was his first choice but he's ducking him.
          Last edited by Jam Jars; 04-14-2013, 10:24 AM.

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            #25
            Originally posted by Own3d
            Klitschko fans keep saying fights like this do nothing for Haye to earn a shot, while supporting fights like Pianeta when the guy hasn't even fought a top 50 fighter. They're a pathetic bunch.
            I don't feel like arguing but anyhow...

            I would put my house on Pianeta KOing Wawrzyk - first thing.

            Second thing - Stay busy fight, while fighting three times per year, is not the same as making the statement fight to earn a SECOND chance, while fighting once per year when you are not retired...

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            • Jam Jars
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              #26
              Originally posted by Simurgh
              I don't feel like arguing but anyhow...

              I would put my house on Pianeta KOing Wawrzyk - first thing.

              Second thing - Stay busy fight, while fighting three times per year, is not the same as making the statement fight to earn a SECOND chance, while fighting once per year when you are not retired...
              A stay busy fight is a fight taken while waiting for another. Wlad requested the mandatory be pushed back so he could have this fight, that isn't a stay busy fight at all it is a cherry pick. You're right it's not the same, Wlad is a champion and fighting garbage fights, Haye isn't. Ridiculing one and supporting the other makes you an hypocrite, but what's new?
              Last edited by Jam Jars; 04-14-2013, 10:30 AM.

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                #27
                Originally posted by Own3d
                A stay busy fight is a fight taken while waiting for another. Wlad requested the mandatory be pushed back so he could have this fight, that isn't a stay busy fight at all it is a cherry pick. You're right it's not the same, Wlad is a champion and fighting garbage fights, Haye isn't. Ridiculing one and supporting the other makes you an hypocrite, but what's new?
                And you are not familiar with whole Povetkin-Wlad situation... ?

                Ok, mate, it's sunny day today - I really can't spend it arguing on pointless discussion. Just to remind you I was all for Charr-Haye as you can see in all my posts, since David announced his come back...

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by Simurgh
                  And you are not familiar with whole Povetkin-Wlad situation... ?

                  Ok, mate, it's sunny day today - I really can't spend it arguing on pointless discussion. Just to remind you I was all for Charr-Haye as you can see in all my posts, since David announced his come back...
                  I wasn't that was a crap fight, this is a crap fight and Wlad-Pianeta is a crap fight.

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                  • Simurgh
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by Own3d
                    I wasn't that was a crap fight, this is a crap fight and Wlad-Pianeta is a crap fight.
                    I agree - it is crap, the crappiest and crappier in that order...

                    David is in no position to go for the crappiest fights if he wants his second chance.

                    But as for Wlad's resume, beating Haye again, doesn't mean a lot; so whatever.. Better to wait for Fury.

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by Simurgh
                      I agree - it is crap, the crappiest and crappier in that order...

                      David is in no position to go for the crappiest fights if he wants his second chance.

                      But as for Wlad's resume, beating Haye again, doesn't mean a lot; so whatever.. Better to wait for Fury.
                      This ^.

                      Haye said he has a two-fight plan to get to a mandatory position. Fighting this no-hoper does nothing to aid that; if anything, the sanctioning bodies should lower his ranking.

                      Haye's resume at HW is a complete joke. Are people stil surprised by this guy? He's taken the easiest route his entire career. He'll get a shot at Wladimir again one day, and he'll fold again. All hype, no substance.

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