Oscar de la Hoya vs Sergio Martinez @154

[Tim2daresq]

Lmao. Sergio. Is an athlete who can fight ,oscar is a experienced skillful top of the food chain inner ingredient fighter, when fighting full time oscar was dangerous. He has seen 175 black sergios in the amatures ,nothing new there

If there was a 175 black Sergio, he'd be headlining PPV's.

[MEXGBP]

Sergio would perform surgery on 154 Shane, 154 Vargas, and Castillejo.

yeah right like he did to cintron and william first fight

we are talking about a guy who lost to margarito

I think the mosley who fought oscar will win over maravilla too

[Tim2daresq]

yeah right like he did to cintron and william first fight

we are talking about a guy who lost to margarito

I think the mosley who fought oscar will win over maravilla too

Anyone that brings up the Margarito fight is a Boxrec warrior. Do you know how long ago that fight was?

[BafanaBafana]

are you trying to say the roman, cintron, bunema where better competion than still prime mosley, castillejo and vargas
even older oscar fought better opposition than martinez at his natural weight

No, I'm showing footage of both fighters at 154 so people can use the footage as reference and compare they're styles. I'm trying to help advance the argument, not trick people into agreeing with me. Do you have a problem with that?

[MatchMaker215]

Nice..... I finally make a good one!

[Scarcaztic]

I think Sergio wins. Movement, great counter jab, and stronger at his natural weight.

[BafanaBafana]

Yeah, that's why he KO'd Barker and Macklin (2 BIG MW's). Sergio beats Oscar in the beginning, and ending rounds. Oscar fades, and Martinez only gets stronger. Martinez would whoop dat ass at 154.

I don't care which Oscar it is. Martinez baptizes the boy.

It's funny these guys keep bringing Barker and Macklin, two guys Martinez KO'd at 160 and who won 2-3 rounds tops. Meanwhile, when De La Hoya tried to move up to 160, he technically 'loses' a 116-112/117-111 type decision to a young Felix Sturm and a KO9 against a 40 year old Hopkins who hadn't stopped anyone in two years and who would not stop anyone in his next 14 fights.

[Tim2daresq]

It's funny these guys keep bringing Barker and Macklin, two guys Martinez KO'd at 160 and who won 2-3 rounds tops. Meanwhile, when De La Hoya tried to move up to 160, he technically 'loses' a 116-112/117-111 type decision to a young Felix Sturm and a KO9 against a 40 year old Hopkins who hadn't stopped anyone in two years and who would not stop anyone in his next 14 fights.

Right. People keep bringing up the Macklin/Barker fights up, like that's supposed to mean ****, when he KO'd them.

And I thought we were discussing them fighting at 154. What does Barker/Macklin have to do with anything?

[Hiei]

Martinez has a draw with cintron and a loss to paul willams at 154

[vacon04]

Martinez has a draw with cintron and a loss to paul willams at 154

Martínez actually knocked out Cintron (and even won the cards anyway, that decision was disgusting) and arguably won vs a prime Williams.