Oscar de la Hoya vs Sergio Martinez @154

[Tim2daresq]

A lot of people forget that at one point Oscar was a beast. I'm going with the golden boy.

No one forgot that Oscar was a beast. It's just that, 154 wasn't his best weight class. 154 was Martinez's natural weight class, so you'd think that the guy with more speed, power, and reflexes would be able to beat a guy that's fighting at his unnatural weight class, that's also slower, weaker, and not as agile as per his previous weight classes.

[BafanaBafana]

Even though Oscar was at his best at 147 in the 90s-early 2000s, Martinez did have trouble in spots with Cintron [although he won]. And although this was a 160, Pavlik, Williams, Macklin, and Barker all gave Martinez a hard time. Chavez Jr nearly knocked him out as well.

An early 154 Oscar DLH was a far better fighter than Cintron, Pavlik, Williams, Macklin and Barker, far better. He beat Vargas, arguably Mosley, and had a 7-5, 8-4 type of fight with a prime [but smaller] Floyd Mayweather, though Oscar himself was also on the decline.

Martinez v. Cintron should have ended in a KO7 and even then Kermit didn't win more than 2-3 rounds. That same Cintron would beat a prime Alfredo Angulo by UD in his next fight.

You bring up Sergio's fights at middleweight against mostly taller and heavier fighters, but you don't bring up De La Hoya's 'success' when he tried to move up from 154 to 160. He technically should have lost a 117-111/116-112 type decision to a young Felix Sturm and was KO'd by a 40 year old Hopkins (Bernard hadn't stopped anyone in two years and would not get a stoppage in his next 14 fights). Martinez, by contrast was much more successful in his transition because of his speed and athleticism; two characteristics that would give him the edge over Oscar.

Oscar v. Castillejo


Oscar v. Vargas


Oscar v. Mosely II


Martinez v. Roman


Martinez v. Bunema


Martinez v. Cintron

[Tim2daresq]

I still watch the Bunema fight every few months. Vintage Martinez.

Sorry, but did you slow mo the ODLH fights? I was watching the Martinez fights first, then I watched the ODLH fights. Is there a glitch in those vids?

[Jc8804]

"Martinez will not be able to adjust."

Alrighty then.

You need get a clue on boxing

Martinez does one thing rely on speed and power ,barker and macklin style wise had sergio thinking too much ,oscar ar too experienced and faced a better sputh paw who is far superior to martinez.

Oscar beats him up in the middle rounds. Young oscar not the one who faught floyd. Read the op post. Oscar beats sergio up

[-Kev-]

If Martinez fought Oscar like he fought Cintron, De La Hoya whips his ass.

[Mr. Fantastic]

Damn people really hate Oscar that much?

Bum Chavez can almost KO but a great like Oscar loses to Martinez?

Martinez would be doing the chicken dance in the first several rounds from a left hook.

[MEXGBP]

Martinez v. Cintron should have ended in a KO7 and even then Kermit didn't win more than 2-3 rounds. That same Cintron would beat a prime Alfredo Angulo by UD in his next fight.

You bring up Sergio's fights at middleweight against mostly taller and heavier fighters, but you don't bring up De La Hoya's 'success' when he tried to move up from 154 to 160. He technically should have lost a 117-111/116-112 type decision to a young Felix Sturm and was KO'd by a 40 year old Hopkins (Bernard hadn't stopped anyone in two years and would not get a stoppage in his next 14 fights). Martinez, by contrast was much more successful in his transition because of his speed and athleticism; two characteristics that would give him the edge over Oscar.

Oscar v. Castillejo


Oscar v. Vargas


Oscar v. Mosely II


Martinez v. Roman


Martinez v. Bunema


Martinez v. Cintron

are you trying to say the roman, cintron, bunema where better competion than still prime mosley, castillejo and vargas
even older oscar fought better opposition than martinez at his natural weight

[Tim2daresq]

You need get a clue on boxing

Martinez does one thing rely on speed and power ,barker and macklin style wise had sergio thinking too much ,oscar ar too experienced and faced a better sputh paw who is far superior to martinez.

Oscar beats him up in the middle rounds. Young oscar not the one who faught floyd. Read the op post. Oscar beats sergio up

Yeah, that's why he KO'd Barker and Macklin (2 BIG MW's). Sergio beats Oscar in the beginning, and ending rounds. Oscar fades, and Martinez only gets stronger. Martinez would whoop dat ass at 154.

I don't care which Oscar it is. Martinez baptizes the boy.

[Tim2daresq]

are you trying to say the roman, cintron, bunema where better competion than still prime mosley, castillejo and vargas
even older oscar fought better opposition than martinez at his natural weight

Sergio would perform surgery on 154 Shane, 154 Vargas, and Castillejo.

[Jc8804]

Lmao. Sergio. Is an athlete who can fight ,oscar is a experienced skillful top of the food chain inner ingredient fighter, when fighting full time oscar was dangerous. He has seen 175 black sergios in the amatures ,nothing new there