How would Wladimir Klitsckho have faired in the 90's

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  • Simurgh
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    #51
    Originally posted by WizardKO
    Simurgh.. Wlad is an ATG Heavyweight. He is a great h2h fighter as well, but he DID NOT clean out this era.. In fact he did not even start.

    He cleaned out the LAST Era.. (which btw was an horrible era) .. this era is actually looking good but Wlad has yet to fight anybody from THIS ERA apart from Haye.

    Fury
    Pulev
    Jennings
    Povetkin
    Haye

    Possibly:
    Wilder
    Glazkov
    Malik Scott.

    Maybe:
    D.Price
    Chisora


    Regardless of weather or not these guys are worthy. Wlad has not cleaned out this era. He already beat arguably the best on that list in Haye,but that's all he did. Can he beat all of the guys listed? Probably. But has he? No.

    The era Wlad did 'beat' was
    Chambers
    Thompson
    Sultan
    Ruslan
    Peters
    etc.. that's his era.
    Well Wlad can't clean the division prior it's formed =)
    And he did beat Haye who is considered as 3rd HW by many. So can't really say that.
    Wlad also has enough time to beat the bests of "this division" once it is clear who is the best. He doesn't need to fight all of them - maybe 2 bests.

    Anyhow I can only comment on the individual wins not on the complete division.

    P.S. You forgot Byrd.

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    • gingerbreadman
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      #52
      Bowe has too much of an inside game for Wlad. Lennox IMO is still a cut above. Tyson I reckon sparks him seven times out of ten. He probably beats Holyfield. The rest (Ruddock, Moorer, Rahman et al.) probably get beaten the same way he beats people now. And this is assuming he gets the benefit of Steward's tutelage, which I don't reckon would happen were Lennox active.

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      • yoz
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        #53
        Originally posted by Weltschmerz
        The Klitschkos clean out the 90s. Only Lummox would be trouble, obviously.
        Ha, you crazy fool.

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        • Simurgh
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          #54
          I don't know why people assume it's easy to make wlad fight inside.
          I haven't seen any fighter (out of 62) who was able to do that. Moreover to this version of Wlad.

          It's extremely hard to come inside, avoid jab, avoid straight right, avoid left hook and then to chase someone who is 6.6 with a perfect lateral and in-out movement. I would say almost impossible. One would need to be extremely fast with an excellent head movement and to have a very good chin.

          Out of 90' fighters the best chance I would give to Tyson.
          Bowe - no way! Don't be fooled wlad would fight as Golota fought him.

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          • yoz
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            #55
            Holyfield and Lewis > Wlad.

            Not too many others, though.


            Loads of 90s HWs > Vitali. He'd probably quit.

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            • Simurgh
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              #56
              IMO:

              Lennox - Vitali 65 : 35 (meaning Lennox takes 6-7 out of 10)
              Lennox - Wlad 50 : 50
              Holyfiled - Vitali 40 : 60
              Holyfiled - Wlad 35 : 65

              Of course I am talking about prime for prime.

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              • edgarg
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                #57
                Originally posted by House of Stone
                The current version of wlad would do very well however it took him a long time to get to this level. A lower standard of comp meant less brutal losses before he got there meaning he didn't quit ... after the last loss to brewster he almost left the game - vitali even told him to quit. Another loss like that around that time and he would have been done.

                So basically the version of wlad that was getting beat by sanders and going life and death with Peter etc would be in trouble. I think also without manny steward he would never reach his current level. So basically I think he'd quit the game due to a few too many brutal losses.

                BUT if you could magically stick the current version of wlad into the 90s it's a different story ... in a nutshell he'd do very well.
                You have it wrong my lad, you should have "edited" better. He didn't 'almost left the game" after the Brewster defeat, and regardless of what his brother said. He had a falling-out with him over it. Also "life and death" with peter, just didn't happen. klitschko grabbed the fight eagerly so that he could prove that he had a good chin, and in this fight he did. Every round in which he didn't suffer a phoney KD, he won.

                I backed him to win on points only because Petewr had an iron chin, and i won $13,500 @13.5-1

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                • DreamFighter
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                  #58
                  Without his brother around, he gets turned over by a midlevel guy without a chance to return. That is based on actual fact of what happened.

                  Also, no WBO title for grabs until late on so he probably doesnt get a title till very late when vitali lands on the wbo scene and loses to someone weak so that wlad can step in and recover the wbo title.
                  Last edited by DreamFighter; 10-03-2019, 02:50 PM.

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                  • REDEEMER
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                    #59
                    Klitschko is 31 and 1 in the 90's. Unless you had a proven chin you would no chance against a blitzing Wlad ,only inexperience hindered his only loss in that era to Purity and was fighting back in the end easily winning the fight. He poses real problems for smaller guys . Axel Shultz gave Foreman all kinds of problems but Wlad ran him over easily for example, he always came back better even in his 40's .

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                    • Gideon lock
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                      #60
                      Originally posted by BlueOrangutan
                      Most of the morons on boxing scene (including the "writers") think that a guy who has owned the division for nearly a decade and 15 title defenses would lose to bottom top 10 guys (or worse) in every other era. Don't expect much in the way of nuanced evaluation from the mongoloids around here.
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                      Last edited by Gideon lock; 10-03-2019, 03:33 PM.

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