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  • American Dream
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    #81
    wonder why the rematch isnt both ways..
    Originally posted by Heavy Hitter
    I'm seeing a lot of these comments regarding USADA and them not being a reputable agency now. Is this all based around that Hauser article?
    I don't remember exact specifics in the articles, but wasn't it all based on hearsay and unnamed sources? Or is their more to it, has their been proof of USADA being corrupt?
    Thanks guys.
    thats what I think its based on!
    I thought USADA is the appointed Olympic testing..and have caught plenty cheaters...???
    Originally posted by bojangles1987
    They destroyed tests for the Quillin-Winky fight. Well known fact. Add in all the rumors, and they look shady when it comes to boxing.

    Also, if blood testing is finding dirty fighters every few months, and USADA is finding none, that's shady looking as well.
    I just remember Winky claiming that.but I could be wrong, could you please post a link to the actual proof that was determined?

    Originally posted by bojangles1987
    That's the optimistic way of looking at it. We have no reason to be optimistic about PED use in boxing.

    Besides, that doesn't explain destroying tests, which we know they've done and is the main reason the USADA is considered shady in the boxing world. Then you look at the Lance Armstrong situation, which people love to bring up as the reason USADA is trustworthy. They only went after him when he stopped paying them off.
    again, is this something of an assumption, based on rumors? or is this something Lance has attested to, or has been determined by a paper trial?
    please link..or is this just another rumor?

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    • radioraheem
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      #82
      Originally posted by Cgarcia
      Where would you see an agency that is in the business of proving people's innocence or guilt destroy evidence? It's horrible.

      Trout implying he doesn't trust USADA shows that these boxers are fully aware of the corruption going on behind the scenes.
      No, they are not fully aware. Keep in mind, Timothy Bradley never heard of VADA a few months ago. He wanted USADA, but I believe due to timing and possibly money, VADA ended up being used. USADA doesn't seem interested in doing any testing where they aren't giving enough time in advance.

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      • radioraheem
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        #83
        Originally posted by American Dream
        wonder why the rematch isnt both ways..

        thats what I think its based on!
        I thought USADA is the appointed Olympic testing..and have caught plenty cheaters...???

        I just remember Winky claiming that.but I could be wrong, could you please post a link to the actual proof that was determined?


        again, is this something of an assumption, based on rumors? or is this something Lance has attested to, or has been determined by a paper trial?
        please link..or is this just another rumor?

        USADA is legit. Only morons think otherwise. The problem with both USADA and VADA is that they are new to boxing and they suffer from a conflict of interest (either the boxers or promoters pay for the testing). So anyway, by default, they are both prone to making occasional mistakes. The reason why heads are jumping on the hate USADA bandwagon is mostly because of articles written by biased pseudo-journalists heavily influenced by Victor Conte. And Conte particularly hates USADA.

        None of these writers have written about the variety of mistakes VADA has made in the past. We are talking crucial mistakes. VADA has since then made adjustments so that they don't repeat history. But again, no one has written a damned thing about it. We only hear about USADA's mistakes, and almost always via hearsay.

        Winky allegedly claimed that someone at USADA told him that they destroyed his samples after only being tested once and having the testing canceled. But this has yet to be confirmed by USADA, or anyone else that's relevant for that matter.

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        • Bermuda
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          #84
          lmao trout bashing USADA while they're right there getting ready to test him..but seriously USADA has been a bit shady with their testing in boxing.

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          • Fetta
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            #85
            @NoDoubtTrout: The comment I made about USADA last night on @BSceneRadio was just a joke 2mess with the officers that were there testing me. #ThatIsAll

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            • lfc19titles
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              #86
              Seems to me people do not know the scum moves they have pulled with golden boy. This is why Golden boy need to be put down, they really are horrible for this sport.

              Why some may ask?

              read into the contract gb have with usada, golden boy are the jury and judge. if a fighter tests positive like say pederson, morales or berto (gb helped him, then he signed for them) they have the power, only they find out, they can then give the fighter an excuse, SOME TIMES hide it totally from commissions, but sometimes delay it until after the fight with big commissions like nevada who will come down hard. They have done all of the previous I just mentioned. They really are horrific scum for this sport

              vada on the other hand refuse this crap, they go straight to the commission, they did this with peterson vs khan, golden boy did not like this, they gave vada a choice, follow their contract demand or else. Vada refused, golden boy then banned them from their fighters and have been tarnishing their reputation by spreading lies/rumors and have asked promoters to stop doing business with them or threatening them, gb have a habit of threatening other promoters like martinez's to get a date.

              this is why usada/gb are scumbags, if canelo tests positive like it is known floyd did, we will not find out

              this is not random testing, this is golden boy testing

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              • bojangles1987
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                #87
                Originally posted by American Dream
                wonder why the rematch isnt both ways..

                thats what I think its based on!
                I thought USADA is the appointed Olympic testing..and have caught plenty cheaters...???

                I just remember Winky claiming that.but I could be wrong, could you please post a link to the actual proof that was determined?


                again, is this something of an assumption, based on rumors? or is this something Lance has attested to, or has been determined by a paper trial?
                please link..or is this just another rumor?
                I put the link for the Quillin-Wright situation earlier, and Lance Armstrong has reportedly bragged about paying off USADA to another cyclist who tested positive and had his Tour de France title stripped. Landis, I think it was, testified to Armstrong telling him such things.

                The shady behavior of USADA is there to see.

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                • bizzle113
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                  #88
                  Originally posted by Slyboots
                  Nothing too out of the ordinary. Don't most defending champs get a rematch clause against the challenger?
                  Both fighters have belts.

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                  • bizzle113
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                    #89
                    Originally posted by mathed
                    I thought the WBC didn't allow for unifications tho?
                    depends on who you are. look at Danny Garcia he has 2 belts.

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                    • maguirre
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                      #90
                      USADA has a tainted rep. They should cease participating in any sport.

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