Comments Thread For: Schaefer is Irritated: A Very Cowardly Approach By HBO

[GRUSTLER]

Read my first post again, you said loyalty and emotions don't exist in business, I told you they do because businesses are run by humans thus human tendencies slip into the business world. Good businessmen for the most part know how to check that sort of stuff,

This in a nut shell.

[brick wall]

Read my first post again, you said loyalty and emotions don't exist in business, I told you they do because businesses are run by humans thus human tendencies slip into the business world. Good businessmen for the most part know how to check that sort of stuff, HBO businessmen did not in this situation thus I don't know how you could say anything good about them.


Owners aren't involved in HBO because stockholders essentially have no say just employees.


And I ain't your son, Boy with my first post did I call you names or insult you Boy, no I didn't because I can have a man conversation and disagree without name calling because men can do that. Boys on the other hand have to do stuff like that, when you get a real man opinion come see me I have no time to talk with an idle minded Boy~

you can't mix it up son. a business is geared towards one direction and that is how to make profit and lots of it. loyalty is about sticking to one thing through good or bad, profit or no profit...it doesn't matter what lies ahead. there's no such thing like that in business.

in business, if it makes profit it makes sense...loyalty most of the time doesn't makes sense because it's full of emotions. emotions ****s up business so as much as possible businessmen doesn't apply their personal emotions into their businesses.

[The Gambler1981]

you can't mix it up son. a business is geared towards one direction and that is how to make profit and lots of it. loyalty is about sticking to one thing through good or bad, profit or no profit...it doesn't matter what lies ahead. there's no such thing like that in business.

in business, if it makes profit it makes sense...loyalty most of the time doesn't makes sense because it's full of emotions. emotions ****s up business so as much as possible businessmen doesn't apply their personal emotions into their businesses.

Loyalty and emotion are bad for business, but that does not mean they don't exist.

It is the difference between should and does, one is reality the other is an ideal. Which is also the difference between me and you, I tell it how it is and you tell it how it might be~

In this case HBO is letting emotion dictate business, I don't know how you could argue otherwise.

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Loyalty and emotion are bad for business, but that does not mean they don't exist.

It is the difference between should and does, one is reality the other is an ideal. Which is also the difference between me and you, I tell it how it is and you tell it how it might be~

In this case HBO is letting emotion dictate business, I don't know how you could argue otherwise.

in a busines to business relationship it doesn't exist. loyalty is already out of the window in this thread topic so no need to talk about that.

personal emotions doesn't exist as well because businesses as a separate legal entity doesn't have emotions. business executives make decisions based on what they think is the most favorable to their business interest even if doesn't favor their personal feelings.

how the hell did you know that hbo execs let their emotions dictate their decision on this one? do you some insider info or you're just speculating things?

[The Gambler1981]

in a busines to business relationship it doesn't exist. loyalty is already out of the window in this thread topic so no need to talk about that.

personal emotions doesn't exist as well because businesses as a separate legal entity doesn't have emotions. business executives make decisions based on what they think is the most favorable to their business interest even if doesn't favor their personal feelings.

how the hell did you know that hbo execs let their emotions dictate their decision on this one? do you some insider info or you're just speculating things?

Because there is no benefit to them making a public statement about the matter, they don't have to buy GBP's fights if they don't want, they however didn't need to make a big deal about it.

Personal emotion does exist because there is always one guy making a decision and that one guy is a human, if that guy is a good business man he can check those feelings. HBO did not check those feelings because what they did has no benefit to them at all, GBP isn't competition for HBO they are a content provider.

It is real easy to see and plain to the eye~ if you don't see it that is your problem not mine~. Also once again I disagree if a person in charge thinks there should be loyalty it will become an issue, because that person is a human so it comes down if they can check those feeling or not, not everyone is perfect or can do that. Once again the difference between should and does~

[bojangles1987]

LOL at this ****. What's sad is how many people on this site will believe and support Golden Boy here.

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Because there is no benefit to them making a public statement about the matter, they don't have to buy GBP's fights if they don't want, they however didn't need to make a big deal about it.

Personal emotion does exist because there is always one guy making a decision and that one guy is a human, if that guy is a good business man he can check those feelings. HBO did not check those feelings because what they did has no benefit to them at all, GBP isn't competition for HBO they are a content provider.

It is real easy to see and plain to the eye~ if you don't see it that is your problem not mine~. Also once again I disagree if a person in charge thinks there should be loyalty it will become an issue, because that person is a human so it comes down if they can check those feeling or not, not everyone is perfect or can do that. Once again the difference between should and does~

lol are you really that naive? companies always make public statements after making decisions to get some needed feedbacks from their customers and in hbo's case their subscribers. that's pretty normal...they want to know what their customer think of the changes they made. that's a simple "making business decisions 101" thing son and nothing to do with emotions.

and so far only a few floyd fanatics like you think it wasn't a good move by hbo for obvious emotional reasons

[The Gambler1981]

lol are you really that naive? companies always make public statements after making decisions to get some needed feedbacks from their customers and in hbo's case their subscribers. that's pretty normal...they want to know what their customer think of the changes they made. that's a simple "making business decisions 101" thing son and nothing to do with emotions.

and so far only a few floyd fanatics like you think it wasn't a good move by hbo for obvious emotional reasons

Alright Boy how did that statement benefit HBO, what leverage or advantage did that give them. That is not how you conduct market research~ which you do before making a decision not after

No that is not normal, how many Fortune 500 release statements like that one. They would almost never do that and would be done in haste, which leads to emotion.

Making a business decision is not buying fights from GBP, which if they don't like what they are getting is perfectly reasonable, however making a big deal about it is not SOP (standard operating procedure) for a corporation.


It is a dumb move by HBO because it does not benefit, any move in business that has no benefit is not a good move. Also why it is an emotional decision because there is no business reason to do what they did, they did it to make them self feel like the big man.

This is about business nothing else, I find sports business interesting and amwell schooled on the topic. Sorry Boy you missed the mark again.

[The Gambler1981]

LOL at this ****. What's sad is how many people on this site will believe and support Golden Boy here.

I wouldn't say GBP is in the right, I would merely say that this is HBO's move thus their mistake. Both sides are out for their interests, which is just fine but how HBO acted from a business standpoint doesn't make sense to me.

I can understand not buying second rate GBP fights, but leverage is hard to come by and acing out GBP removes at lot of options a the high end of the sport.

GBP is a boxing promoter though so of course they do shady stuff, no way to be in the sport and keep your white gloves clean.

[GRUSTLER]

Alright Boy how did that statement benefit HBO, what leverage or advantage did that give them. That is not how you conduct market research~ which you do before making a decision not after

No that is not normal, how many Fortune 500 release statements like that one. They would almost never do that and would be done in haste, which leads to emotion.

Making a business decision is not buying fights from GBP, which if they don't like what they are getting is perfectly reasonable, however making a big deal about it is not SOP (standard operating procedure) for a corporation.


It is a dumb move by HBO because it does not benefit, any move in business that has no benefit is not a good move. Also why it is an emotional decision because there is no business reason to do what they did, they did it to make them self feel like the big man.

This is about business nothing else, I find sports business interesting and amwell schooled on the topic. Sorry Boy you missed the mark again.

You already tore him up several posts ago. That cat has no idea how business works because he thinks people don't put emotions and personal feeling into decisions at times. That right there alone shows he has no idea how business really works. HBO did not need to go public and say that they weren't going to deal with Golden Boy anymore. That was an emotional decision and it stemmed from Golden Boy getting Mayweather the deal at Showtime.

Even in the statement it had some emotional content in it. HBO felt screwed and Schaefer felt screwed regarding Canelo/Martinez September date issue but Schaefer didn't make a big deal out of it but instead reacted and still kept the window open. It was emotional for Schaefer to react like that over a date for Canelo but it was also emotional what HBO did. Brick is not understanding after all of this time that the sport of boxing's business is mostly personal.

Look at Bob Arum and all the bickering between promoters and fighters? If it was only about business then there would be a lot more fights the fans want to see. Brick lives in his own world where he looks at how things should be instead of how it is and then laughs at people actually living in reality.