Mayweather Senior?

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true but Im not 100% sure if he doesnt have more legs than he's showing. Could be this is what it is or he could still have enough legs to move around some. I dont think he has his JMM legs anymore.

If he showed that I would be shocked. However, I would love to see him get his Mosley legs back. Since then he's looked pretty bad with the movement. Some has been by design but some had looked like straight age.

If he was just as agile as the Mosley fight then he could still hold his own at 154 very well. If this is just what it is then he could be in trouble there

He moved pretty well against JMM. Would def love to see if he can still do that....if he can't he is going to have problems fighting top 54 pounders.

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trust me, I love seeing him in the pocket but there is still a difference. You can be in the pocket and still more alive on your toes, ala the Mosley fight. Since then its been looking more like an older man.

Obviously he can still move but how much? What he's doing now is good enough to beat anyone from 147 on down easily but my point is about 154. I think he'll need to show a lil more agility if he fights there again

i just yped this before i got to page two. These are my exact feelings. If he fights the way he did against Cotto say against Cinammon and he's going to be in for a rough night.

[Evol]

When sr. is not crack talking about PAC or roach the stuff he says does make a lot of sense and it does show the good trainer side of him. Can't believe I'm even saying this lol.

[IIG]

I'm just confused since every photo or video I've seen of Floyd's camp has Roger as the trainer. Floyd Sr. isn't even in the background anywhere. I know that doesn't mean he's not there putting in work, but the camp has a strange structure if that's the case.

[Biolink]

He still has good legs. Not saying its like 2007 again, against Ricky Hatton, but no one he's fought or probably could fight outside of Canelo or other fighters bigger than him would necessitate him bouncing around the ring like an amateur.

He can sit in the pocket and get his offense off, and he can back pedal , throw his check hook and roll off if anyone gets too close.

[billeau2]

This thread is a little amusing....Its like the guy who starts lifting weights and measures his bicept every day.....

Do fighters age in day? yes. But foresnsics dictate that this usually happens to fighters who are not athletic between fights. Usually there is some indication that you are not up to the task. Data also suggests that fans are quick to condemn....fighters do have bad outings, it is not a death sentence when an older fighter shows up lacking stamina and movement. Hopkins has looked old occasionally and then shown us that he is still the man.

All hoophula aside Floyd has over the years become more technically proficient and does not move like he did in his prime. Its amusing to see Broner imitating older Floyd because Floyd seems very aware of how to economize and Broner will be exposed imitating what he thinks he sees Floyd do....For example, Floyd does not line up wide in the feet, Boner does and will pay for it against Paulie.

Floyd has been getting hit more lately (even that Mosley punch) and fights off his back foot more than he used to...its part of aging and its not something that can be measured per a fight! Floys is way to skillful to suddenly change his effort in a way that can be exploited that obviously.

As said: Floyd is also playing to the fans, he fought Cotto that way for a reason...But prime Floyd? does not need to take any jabs from Cotto to counter that punch with an overhand right.

[B.U.R.N.E.R]

Goodness this Floyd "legs" talk is nauseating. Hes old as ****. So he changed his style hes using less energy and a lot more brains. He can still get his punches off and hes still pretty tough to hit. Its working because he's much stronger than he was when he first started fighting at welter. He can stand his ground and still dodge punches like a James Toney can.

He doesn't need to "move" just for the hell of it. It has to have a purpose behind it no need to waste energy at 37 just to do it.